North lawn of the white house. Kristen, before you head off on that trip, there was a big meeting in the white house yesterday. The president , top congressional leaders, both parties. What came out of that meeting . I saw certainly the sound of everybody saying were going to Work Together, bipartisanship. I feel we hear that every two years. Anything come out of that that says this different . Reporter well, no, nothing came out of it that sounded different. What you heard publicly from president obama when he made remarks at the top of the lunch he was interested in hearing from republicans. We do know they discussed some is areas of agreement like increasing funding for fighting ebola and isis. However, when that lunch ended, the statements that weigh good from both sides seem to suggest theyre still dug in on some of the key issues, particularly immigration, steve. President obama has said he is moving forward with his plans to issue an executive order on immigration before the end of the year. Republicans have balked at this saying that could make it difficult to get any of the smaller deals they want to get done on things like trade and infrastructure. For their part republicans are also digging in on the president S Health Care law. They say theyre going to bring up bills to repeal the law. That is aimed at sort of mull fig the base that a lot of the senators who won ran on that platform, steve. Its hard to see theres a new tone here. Having said that theres a lot of pressure on both sides to do something. President obama is facing his final two years in office. Republicans now own the congress. So if they dont get something done theyre going to own that as well. This issue of Immigration Reform, though, is going to be a major Sticking Point moving forward. The white houses response to that is republicans can deal with it by passing something. Of course there is a bipartisan bill that passed in the senate so the white house says, look, pass something in the house and then we wont have to act unilaterally on Immigration Reform. It doesnt look like that is going to happen. The pickering is going to continue. Steve . Just quickly, the other major issue is this nomination, Loretta Lynch, for attorney general. Whats the expectation in the white house they think this is going to go through smooth sailing, a lame duck thing . Whats the thinking on getting her confirmed . Reporter i think they do think she will get confirmed and thats part of the reason president obama picked her. She is someone who has a good reputation for her service as u. S. Attorney in brooklyn. Shes twice confirmed. Were hearing from lawmakers on capitol hill already who say were interested in hearing from her. I think the biggest question is that second one that you point to, steve, timing. Is this going to get done in the lame duck session or after once republicans are in place in the senate. Mitch mcconnell has said thats what he would like to see, the latter, that he thinks this confirmation process should hold off until then. President obama has said he will defer to congress to basically determine the timing of this. Having said that, steve, this all just came out yesterday. So were going to be hearing a lot more throughout the day about Loretta Lynch probably getting a lot more reaction, so that could change. But at this point theres an expectation from the white house that lawmakers will have to get together and figure out the timing of it. The broader expectation is she has a good reputation on things like civil rights. She is also taking on corporate fraud cases, so she does 0 have a fair amount of broad bipartisan support which, as you know, is rare in had this town, steve. Thats certainly true. Kristen welker live at the white house, good luck on that trip coming up. Thank you for joining us this morning. In meeting with the opposition at the white house yesterday, president obama was sticking to a ritual. What youre seeing here of course isnt president obama, its his pred secessor, george bush. He held a similar lunch with nancy pelosi after the midterm shell acting that made pelosi speaker of the house. This picture is bill clinton in 1984 meeting with the man who was about to become the speaker of the house after the midterm republican landslide that year. Newt gingrich was his name. Maybe you remember him. Bob dole and al gore are also both in that shot. So yesterdays lunch between obama, Mitch Mcconnell, john boehner and other congressional leaders is part of a longstanding tradition as are vows this week of cooperation and bipartisanship. The American People just want to see work done here in washington. I think theyre frustrated by the gridlock. Theyd like to see more c cooperation. And i think all of us have the responsibility, me in particular, to try to make that happen. The American People have changed the senate. So i think we have an obligation to change the behavior of the senate and to begin to function again. This morning the official start of the first test of whether a fully Republican Congress and the white house will be able to Work Together. Thats the news president obama will nominate Loretta Lynch to become attorney general later this morning. As you flerd Kristen Welker she comes to the job with a deckd in new york. She needs to be confirmed by the senate. And so here is a test. Will she get confirmed easily . Will it be a big fight . Here is another test, probably the biggest test in the next few months. What about immigration . The most immediate test for the president and for republicans after this election. And what about the idea of real cooperation and bipartisanship. Theyre talking about it now but weve heard it a million times before. Will anything actually be different this time . Here to discuss all of this, former massachusetts congressman barney frank, capitol Hill Reporter kate and will blaze. When you looked at all the names out there, there were some tom perez, for instance, you were hearing from republicans a lot of negative stuff like republicans were sort of gearing up to fight tom perez that was the nominee. Seems like the white house here it in picking Loretta Lynch mighting saying this is not a fight we want to be having right now knowing we have immigration coming up. Is that a fair way to read this . You would have then been picking two fights. A secretary of labor confirmation fight. I can see not doing that. Shes a very good prosecutor. Shes an africanamerican woman. And i want to discuss one of the greatest hip ypocrisy ive ever heard, naming an attorney general in a lame duck session is inappropriate. When the republicans were in control they impeached bill clinton. So the notion that it is legitimate in a lame duck session to impeach a sitting president and, by the way, one of the two counts that have impeachment only went through because members who had been defeated, republicans in the 1998 election, were allowed to vote. If that had gone over to the next congress only one if there is a delay here, the republicans say we want to do this after the lame duck and the president says, you know, as a gesture of good faith, im fine with that, do you think even if it goes to that she should be okay to get confirmed . Probably. You never know. If i were the president i would not be making unilateral je gestures of good faith because the record has been they do not respond. In 2002 you showed george bush shaking hands with nancy pelosi. The following two years the Democratic Congress came to george bushs rescue against the rightwing republicans whether we hit the financial crisis. Look, its not a good thing to have a lame duck attorney general. Why wait three months . I dont see any reason not to go for the confirmation. I imagine many conservatives want to ask very tough questions of Loretta Lynch. They might want to have a very tough confirmation process and most has to do with eric holder and less with lore tta lynch. Is she going to follow in his footsteps of making this a divisive policymaking office. As a political perspective, they dont have any interest interest in the fight. Everything, every single piece of legislation from trade negotiation and power to exporting crude oil to Keystone Pipeline is subtext to the immigration fight and that, to be honest, is completely 100 in president obamas hands. So lets talk about immigration right now then. The president , basically the white house is sending out the message, hey, you have this bill that passed the senate last year, the summer 20613. Its been languishing in the house ever since then. Basically, republicans, you have until the end of the year, Republican House. Take that bill, put it on the floor, put it up for a vote. Im ready to sign it. Republicans in the senate voted for it. If you do that, i will not do anything unilaterally. If you dont do that, i am. Is that a serious threat . I think it is a serious threat. I think we should expect executive action from the president , its something hes been promising for a long time and there would be a lot of pushback from his own base if he didnt do it. I to think that the president has wanted to give republicans a lot of room on immigration and every time theres sort of a hint at room, he takes thatter seriously. And so i think he sort of sees john baoehner and Mitch Mcconnel and he sees these tiny little hints they might try to get something done and so he wants to wait. I dont think that after everything i heard coming out of the lunch that it was very contentious specifically on the subject of immigration. I dont see how he doesnt do is there a solution here . Is there a way to get that bill from the senate, the bill that passed the senate, a way to get the house to vote on it . The house will vote on numerous bills. It is honestly caned of absurd. The only thing up for debate is whether he gets a comprehensive immigration bill. That word is all that matters he to him f. Republicans dont give it, hell take executive action. If he doesnt take executive action, republicans will present a Border Security bill, visa bills, theyll go through everything except for amnesty for the 37 million illegal immigrants. The problem with that it goes against the facts. Theyve been in control of the house. Thats one branch. The senate did it. You say the house will take it up. John boehner hasnt asked Barack Obamas permission to take up legislation. If they wanted to pass the narrower bills, they could bring them to the fore. They did bring a number of smaller bills to the floor the last congress but the senate hasnt brought them up yet. They have nothing to do with Border Security. The Biggest Issue that we have the biggest, i think, oh, well, well do that if you can seal the border and make it totally secure and thats a goal post that will move forever. What i particularly find troubling was your statement, though, well if he does this on immigration, that will be a problem for all the other issues. This notion if the president does something on immigration that the republicans dont like they will not cooperate with him on other issues is a total negation how legislation is supposed to work. We should do this issue by issue. If mcconnell says the president should do immigration its like waving a red flag in front of a bill. The Republican Party is not supposed to act like a dumb animal. That is whats going to happen. It is it is whats going to happen. You pay a political price for it. Spend as much time in congress as you did, congressman. The idea is you have to work with people, have relationships, compromise and, to be honest, you penlly experienced this. If you push through a stimulus bill or Health Care Bill that poisons the well, youll get no cooperation moving forward. Nonsense. If he pushes executive action well have a repeat of urbina last terms. No, here is your problem. Yes, i have been there and did work on a bipartisan basis. I was voted one of the five most bipartisans by the republicans. I think your job is to do both. You fight where youre right. We had cooperated very much with george bush in 2008. We gave paulson and bernanke more support than the republicans. Obama gets elected and the republicans announce they want to defeat him and there was no cooperation. The notion that he started this fight, there was an effort in the senate to work with Olympia Snowe and susan collins, no, were pulling back. Chris dodge thought he had negotiations going on the financial reform bill, and he got a call from shelby saying, sorry, we cant do anything with you but oppose it. Its historically inaccurate. Let me ask you this. The bill sitting in the house, the one that passed the senate the and i think it was 15 who voted for that when it got through the senate, most democrats in the house would vote for that. If it were on the floor, how many republicans in the house do you think would vote for that . It changes a lot and i think it probably has changed since the last election. I think a lot of members, new members voted in in the seats that republicans gained probably look at that and think that they did win on an antiimmigration platform in part. And so i dont suspect that it would have the same support that it had last congress. Would it be enough with the minority democrats i think it would be close. There are members, there are democratic members who have been working on this issue for a long time who says they absolutely have republican support and if it came to the floor, it would pass. If it just got a vote. But its tough to say because the language changes a lot from republicans. Sometimes its like we have to, you know, get Border Security done and then we can talk about citizenship. Right. It just varies so much and i think this last election the antiimmigration im sorry, antiimmigration bill, people against the senate bill not antiimmigration, look at it and say, okay, we won. So sorry. So real quickly, you said amnesty earlier. Now what is in this bill is a longterm the senate bill is a longterm path to citizenship, all sorts of fines, going to the back of the line. Is the concept of any kind of path to legalization, path it to citizen shship for you, blanket considered amnesty . No. For me personally. But its an extremely Divisive Political issue for those that reside in congress, steve. My point is on this entire issue you cant attach yourself to the adjective of comprehensive. If that is the most divisive aspect of any immigration bill, why dont you attack every other aspect of immigration that we do agree upon. By the way, there are numerous bipartisan support measures for Immigration Reform. That one in particular doesnt have to be attached to the rest. Except 90 , we have those here who are law abiding but came here illegally and thats an impact on the economy. Some of the Border Security stuff is an unrealistic spending of a lot of money to accomplish a goal thats not going to be accomplished in a free society. Weigh cant seal off the american border. To the extent thats a condition, a precedent for anything else, nothing will happen. The other point i want to make is this. I just want to get back to your notion that developing relationships mean you cant disagree on any one issue. Nonsense. George bush became president and pushed through tax cuts. That didnt stop us from cooperating. I wish we hadnt. No child left behind with ted kennedy. In a legislative body you have to disagree strongly on one issue but Work Together on the issue to where you agree. The republicans are now announcinging if he does something they strongly disagree with, they will with hold cooperation and other issues they agree with him even if its in the interest of the country to do it. Senator leahy. Theres another divisive issue weve been hearing a lot about the last five years that came back into the news in a big way yesterday. Going to be a lot of fallout for this. Well tell you all about it right after this. Or retirement. But when we start worrying about tomorrow, we miss out on what matters today. 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