Brothers ali, take it. I deeply appreciate you taking command of this while we figure out a technically issue. Dont go too far, just to make sure the grim lynn are out of the sim. Thank you, my friend. The president who commands the most power of army on earth with a message to the people, more akin to a political parody. This is an official statement from the president yesterday. Peggy noonan, a comcast, msnbc, wall street journal puppet doesnt have a clue. She plays right into the hands of the stupid people, exclamation point. It sounds like i said something from a parody, a monty python bit or something. Whiling this going on, million of americans are worrying about how to put food on the table. Today worrying about how to pay their rent, because those bills came due yesterday, relief in the form of an additional 600 unemployment benefit expired on friday. Their protection from eviction expired on friday. That lifeline that could have helping them save up for the rent they had to pay, the federal moratorium has lapsed. One estimate puts some 40 million americans could be evicted, without income, without credit, without a credit check to rent a new apartment or home. Yesterday nancy pelosi hosted chuck schumer, mark meldos, and Steve Mnuchin to try to break the impasse. It lasted 3 1 2 hours, the stalemate was not resolved. It doesnt sound like it will be anytime soon. This is not a usual discussion, because the urgency is so great, healthwise, financial healthwise, and again the health of our democracy. We had really. It was the best discussions weve had so far, and i call it progress, but a ways to go. I think we would also characterize the discussions as the most productive weve had to date. I would characterize this as theres still a lot of work to do. Were a long way apart. I dont want to suggest a deal is imminent, because its not. They have made clear they want to do an entire package. We have made clear were willing to deal with shortterm issues, pass something quickly and come back to the larger issues. As Kennedys Saif you look an the numbs, its on the right side. They had to make the chart so big you can get a sense of how this has fallen. More than triple the Previous Report said in 1958, nearly four times worse the worst quarter in the great recession. For 19 straight weeks, more than 54 million americans in all have filed for unemployment. Meanwhile, President Trump continues to insist any new coronavirus deal must also come with a payroll tax cut. Joini ing me is the former treasury secretary under president obama,want to ask yout that Mitch Mcconnell has said at least 20 members of his congress say enough is enough. We have done enough for people. We heard the treasury secretary, your successor in the job, saying this is not appropriate to give people this much money to stay home. How do you characterize this as someone who was at the helm of the treasury . Well, its good to be with us, ali. Im glad by all reports it was a good meeting yesterday. Its about time. The how democrats passed a bill two and a half months ago. The senate has slow rolling it, only take it up and never bringing it to a vote even until day. Today way the first serious discussion, even though the Unemployment Benefits expired. I have to tell you, as a is great. Omic matter, the need its a crisis. You dont have to take my word for it. Look at what the chair of the fed said storks hess predecessors, republican economisting like glen had you been hard. The harvard economist making the case we need to balance the budget. Theyre all saying we need to do some large in order to have the economy not go into a nose dive. You can get into a debate of 1 trillion or 3 trillion and forget its about values. What do we do to solve a crisis . You need to do the things to keep the economy from collapsing and keep families from going into real, real crisis. You have 7 million children living in households that are behind on the rent. Between 8 and 15 million children living in houses that dont have enough food to put on the table. What is the senate doing about this . Close to nothing. That costs money. I would argument that every dollar you put into the households will get spent and help stimulate the economy. I think bringing to the table a proposal to increase the Tax Deduction of business lunches, and doing nothing to put food on the table for starving families, thats a question of values, thats not a question of money. Its unacceptable if they dont deal with the most vulnerable. You can argue it both ways. Even if you looked at it as a question of money, for those republican senators who are saying enough is enough, when you look back to it is 20082009 recession, those places where we strategy ecly put money into the stimulus, into the bailouts, they actually do return properly. To your point, when someone is desperate for money, you provide that money, they spend all of it. It isnt extra money for a guy like me or someone like you. This is money that people need to spend. Better than 100 of that money gets spent. Your economic, if thats how your mind works, also puts it in the right place, but the concept of the senators saying, enough is enough, we have spend enough while there are starving children in america seems to be the wrong place for us. I totally agree, ali. To compare this to the financial crisis, one has to remember that none of the people were talking about have anything to do with creating this crisis. This crisis is driven by a Health Crisis, and an incompetent response by our government, and incredible die kneel to do what it takes to make it safe and for children to go back to school and people to go back to work. We need to deal with that in order to get out of this economic crisis. Lets also remember that when the Health Crisis passes, this is a big hole in the economy. It would have a lingering impact, people will need things like Unemployment Insurance until jobs are back. The idea of people choosing not to work is ludicrous. You can find a story here or there, but 200 is grossly inadequate. It will leave families without enough money to feed their re families and pay their rent. We need to do better. And we can do. Thank you, former secretary jack lew. Karen bass, and why their leadership during recent social unrest has put them both on joe bidens Vice President ial short list. Youre watching velshi on msn msnbc. Msnbc. Try wayfair. You got this perfect. Youre welcome. 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Congresswoman karen bass, the extremely powerful and influential chair. Her National Profile has skyrocketed and a central figure and voice in the houses efforts for police reform, leading and introducing the houses justice in policing act. The pair were spot the together last week. They have also participated in a virtual fundraiser together. She also received the backing of the influential the sacramento bee. She, of course, has been on this show frequently. Another guest on our show frequently is Atlanta Mayor keesha lance bottoms. She was an influential part of the protest, and early biden supporter, who in addition to leading one of americas largest cities has led atlanta through the covid19 pandemic. She had covid19 herself, all the while dealing with a governor who is suing her personally. It is unclear what, if anything, that means for her vp prospects. Joining me is the founder of she the people. Thank you to both of you being with us again. Amy, lets start with you. These two women are people who have been quite prominent, both on my show and msnbc many, many times in the last few months. What do you make of them both . Well, first i should say that the lived and Actual Experience qualifications of both these candidates would make them formidable Vice President ial picks. I want to say that both represent a new generation of leadership. Both would help to unify the country. Poll after poll are showing that, you know, democrats prefer a black woman on the ticket. Both the mayor and congresswoman would fit that bill, both rendering really powerful experience in terms of grounding both, a tremendous pushback to trump policies. And in bringing a new vision to bring the country forward. Karen bass has been a Congress Members for a long time. Ive known karen for 30 years, she is a real one. Tell me what you know about karen bass. Yeah. I think, you know, people have been surprised to see her rise in this maybe. Shes gone from being a popular politicianve in her south l. A. Community, to chair the congressional black caucus. Now clearly sitting at the top tier of this short list. Karen has been both a fighter for communities and fighter for people. Her as long as i have known her, which has been 30 years, and that means, you know, sort of building out the infrastructure that was necessary in the 80s and 90s to address Substance Abuse epidemic in south l. A. , her incredible leadership during the uprising in 1992, ensuring that businesses were rebuilt in south l. A. , that communities were brought together to build coalitions. Also, clearly her leadership as the speaker of the California Assembly during an incredible financial crisis, says she worked across the aisle with then governor schwarzenegger was just a demonstration of the leadership that she will bring. Amy, a lot of people have talked about joe bidens age, the fact that hes 77 years old, the fact he might serve one term, and when you look at your Vice President ial candidate who may in four years or eight years may assume the leadership. Her age, shes relatively young to all people being considered. Shes 50. They said the same thing about barack obama, though, truly we need a new generation of leadership. She would represent that. Her age i dont think is an impediment. Shes leading one of the countrys largest cities, executive leadership brings shes been dealing with some of the toughest, a pandemic, unemployment, and truly unrest in the streets and demand for Racial Justice. Shes been facing some tough issues as mayor, and has grown in her National Profile. I think her age as well, i think it is a positive, when you think about pairing different generations. Shes the child of the civil rights movement. She would bring a new perspective at the top of the ticket. I think thats a really strong positive. Thank you to both of you for joining me and letting us go deeper into the issues. Joining me is aiayanna pressly. Congresswoman, good to see you again. Talk to me about this race a bit. What do you make of these remarkable women weve been talking about. If joe biden were asking your advice right now, what would you tell him . Well, i think its about listening to the people. You know, the people have made it clear theyre looking of the ticket, in partnership with joe biden that will leave with a strength of conviction, prioritize Racial Justice, and also, again, be connected to the people. I associate myself with the previous statements in terms of their proximity, their experience and their track record. Talk to me about the idea that some people have asked the Vice President whether he will pick an africanamerican woman. He says theres four on the short list. In your case, during the primaries, you supported elizabeth warren, who speaks to a lot of the Economic Issues which are very close to what you talk about. How does that work into this for you . Well, you know, policy is my love language, one of the key reasons i supported senator warren is she has centered a Racial Justice lens in her policies. It was done through law making. So i think it makes the point that Racial Justice must be central in this white house agenda, the democratic agenda. We have to be strint to be be s. We would do well to have any of them. Policy being your love language, lets talk about policy or the policy that has not passed the senate as it relates to evictions. In your home state of massachusetts, black renters are 2 1 2 times more likely to have an eviction filed against them. Black women three times as likely, by the way, that are ultimately dismiss, but remain a stain on their credit report, and 80 of bothen eviction cases are currently suspended by the moratorium are in neighborhoods of color. This storm has hit people of color in this country is about to become a tsunami. Prior to covid there were 3. 7 million evictions filed a year. Once i joined congress, we found ourself in the midst of a federal government shutdown, and we knew that many were on the precipice of facing eviction then. The average family does not even have 400 of savings to weather a disruptive life event. This was already a crisis. This was the number one constituent call i received as a city councillor and as a freshman member of congress. Its why since march ive been calling for a moratorium on evictionses and foreclosures. The cancellation of rent and mortgages. Might i add that not only is this a Racial Justice issue because of the disproportionate impact, but this is a Public Health issue, eviction tsunami does not allow us to slow the rate of transmission. This is a matter of the Public Health, housing and economic and Racial Justice. In this congress moust meet the scope of this. Thats why i join with Kamala Harris and rosa delora. Thats what the families need is a lifeline. It guaranties teeth legal representation for those families facing eviction. Also it does address mitigate the negative marks on their credit report. It also requires a collection of data nauertly. Our gopled senate, they are either clue his, callous our disconnected. That was true before covid, its especially true now. Thats why we need to extend benefits, not we need an eviction and foreclosure moratorium so up we have another layer of tenant protections. Ive set up a discussion about the fact that there are people waking up this morning who are truly anxious and scared, not just about their meals, but in fact about the roof over their head. Congresswoman, thank you for your work. Its been 78 days since they passed legislation expanding the unemployments program. Bernie sanders is not happy that the senate gop allowed the benefits to expire. He joins me next. Benefits to expire he joins me next neighbor whatcha working on. burke oh, just puttering, tinkering. Commemorating bizarre mishaps that farmers has seen and covered. Had a little extra time on my hands lately. neighbor and that . burke oh, this . Just an app ive been working on. Its called signal from farmers, and it could save you up to fifteen percent on your auto insurance. Simply sign up, drive and save. But im sure whatever youve been working on is equally impressive. We are farmers. 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