Republican party that is poised to unleash painful consequences about the whole country. Some recess. Over the first to back for the House Of Representatives was in fact chaos. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy has been unable to move forward with crucial Appropriations Bills or Government Spending bills, and its not because democrats and republicans are fighting with one another. The fighting is happening among republicans. There have been ultimatums, insults thrown between members, closeddoor meetings, and no progress on anything substantive for which the house is actually responsible. And listen to essential the government will shut down, if nobodys past, mccarthy announced that he will open an Impeachment Inquiry into president joe biden. Now that is a gambit that is certain to fail. And i dont mean that mccarthy cant possibly get biden removed from office if not just impeach of the house, but a trial and a vote in the senate. It is unclear if a mccarthy can win Impeachment Vote in the house. Its unpopular with a small remaining faction of the Republican Party that still cares about governing. Which is probably why mccarthy opened the Impeachment Inquiry without holding a vote, as is customary. I had earlier indicated that he would do. But why would the speaker of the u. S. House of representatives who is the first and third in line to the presidency launched a project that appears to be both strategically and politically unwise . Well thats easy. Its because he owes that important job to a small band of farright conspiracy peddling when thats who belong to the cult of donald trump. N th mccarthy barely got a joa speaker, took him 15 ballots to win the election, and then a handful of members of his own party refused round after round after round to vote for him, preventing him to having a majority. A group of 20 republicans voted against mccarthys speakership, most of them were addressed by trump, most of them are election deniers. 14 of them voted to overturn the 2020 election on january 2021. In order to convince those holdouts to stand down, mccarthy agreed to a series of concessions, including more ultraconservative Freedom Caucus members to the rules committee which dictates the flow of legislation on the floor. He also agreed to appoint members like Marjorie Taylor greene to leadership positions, and crucially, he agreed to lower the required number of members to force a vote ousting the speaker, something that is called a motion to vacate the chair. Five members, to one, that becomes important. Amid becomes one farright publican could call for a vote to remove mccarthy around his job. So, with that agreement, Kevin Mccarthy put himself in his speakership at the mercy of any one member of the chaos caucus. His job, his power, at the mercy, a for example, a guy like matt gaetz. And theres a lot to suggest that gaetz is exercising that power. Before the summer recess, mccarthy said that if the house launched an Impeachment Inquiry, he would first hold a vote on whether to proceed with. It but then on tuesday, gaetz said on the house floor, quote, mister speaker, you are out of compliance with the agreement that allowed you to assume this role, and quote. By role, he means speaker of the house. Gaetz continued. Quote, the path forward is to either bring you into immediate, total compliance or remove you pursuant to a motion to vacate the chair. And quote. Gaetz essentially telling mccarthy, do it our way, or you are out. Soon after that, mccarthy announced unilaterally that he was opening an impeachment green to President Biden, no vote. Matt gaetz call that a baby step. But gaetz is not the only Chaos Caucus Member who might be flexing his muscles. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted that just two days before mccarthy announced the Impeachment Inquiry, she and trump had a quiet dinner wearing matching hats. Trump has been pushing the impeachment of joe biden on truth social, and his fundraising emails, and his text during his rallies, and for her, part Marjorie Taylor greene says she told trump that she won the Impeachment Inquiry to be, quote, long and exclusively be painful for joe biden, and quote. It all came to head on thursday. Mccarthy held a closeddoor meeting, when the reportedly begin by with him telling his conference, quote, if you think you scare me because why are filing a motion to vacate, move the effing motion, and quote. He said the whole word. The gop is right now in crisis. About the minority, just about 20 of, them who under the influence of the quadruple e indicted twice impeached ex president appears to be holding sway over the speaker of the house, and therefore, over what kind of work gets done in congress. And for that reason, weve got a doomed Impeachment Inquiry instead of a budget this week. For more on this, im joined by the former Republican Congress men charlie dent, who represented pennsylvanias 15th district, he is now Executive Director and Vice President of the Aspen Institute congressional program. Also with, us stewarts evens, see your visor for the lincoln project, he previously served as Chief Strategist for mitt romneys 2012 president ial campaign. Stu is the author of multiple books, including it was all a lie, how the Republican Party became trump, became donald, trump and the upcoming the conspiracy to end america, how our old party is driving america to autocracy. Could see. You charlie, mr. With, you because even in congress, we just heard my conversation, i think, with jasmine crockett, who is currently in congress. She believes actually that we are headed for budgetary impasse and a possible government shutdown. And mccarthy is busy with this impeachment nonsense. It does for the core headed towards a shutdown, in, fact it resembles the 2013 situation. It is so unnecessary. Look, youve got a group of hardliners out there. They are trying to use their leverage and hold everyone hostage. They hold their breath, in the way for bielsa turned blue. Hold their breath, in the way fo theres a simple way o. This all chemically to do over Hakeem Jeffries and say, i need your help. Im gonna need to pass for many votes, clean some disastrous, instance and maybe pull over. They can get that with democrats to support. That is the way it. Because youve got mokgweetsi others, we want to the speaker, down there threatening the motion to vacate emma speaker. So i think mccarthy have taken up is, that he simply autumn arduous immensely, youre gonna do, and get this done. Thats the way. Out but so far, Kevin Mccarthy has not been want to do that. And he heard himself in the Impeachment Inquiry because the democrats are less likely to cooperate because of the Impeachment Inquiry because he did not have the votes in the house to pass. So hes put himself in a bit of a box. So, stewart, what charlie said, but it is sound so obvious unreasonable, he says mccarthy just wants to do what he wants to do. Mccarthy who, by the way, is able to impeach joe, because hes not thats gonna work. He cant do that. Its 20 people on one, side 20 people now decide who wanted constituencies that joe biden won and yet this 20 have got control over Kevin Mccarthy. Explain to me the math on this, and why this is happening. Look, i think its part of a complete collapse the Republican Party. I mean, ultimately, we talk about this group in that group. But if republicans in the group just join together and said, we are actually interested in governing, theres a lot of pass. Theres a lot of past what gaetz wants to do. Nobody likes his people. Everybody goes along with it. And it is really extraordinary to see a party that is completely lost any belief that it is governing party. Republican party just now chose to beat democrats. It is like a cartel or a syndicate. Nobody asks opec, what is your higher purpose, and thats what the Republican Party is about. And if they think going in for a president ial election and talking about Hunter Bidens laptop in impeaching joe biden, is gonna be persuasive to people, theyre going to lose these seats. These 18 members out there and District Biden warns. We lose a lot of them, its gonna be a bad year for, them and hopefully theyll realize that in try to start governing the country. But surely, this is important stewards. As was talking about was a good lie, nobody asked opec whether higher purposes. But the Republican Party in america and the Conservative Movement in america should appeal to a very broad range of people in america. There is a real opportunity for conservatives. On a talk about this to stewardess ekin, but you saw mitt romney saying, im throwing in the towel. That makes a lot of people said, but a lot of people who liked him say that mitt romney was a fair opponent to have on their. He was admitted principles, and he has decided that this fight is not worth it. Yeah, of course. Mitt romney is a wonderful man. An honorable man. A very good public servant. But i think the Republican Party needs to become, as you said, a governing party. And what i mean, is that we have to define that. I think we have to believe in a Strong National defense, we have to believe in free markets with a moderate, reasonable regulation, and it needs to be socially tolerant. That is among other things. I think thats where the party needs to go, but we are not having that conversation. What happens since donald trump has taken the reins of the party is that we have trumpism, which is nativism, isolationism, protectionism, a times nihilism. And it is just really, we are in a very bad place as a party. And we have to be honest, trump is moving, is that we can name like a governing party. And the good news is, back in the spring of may or june, when they were they cut the deal on the debt, sealing i thought Kevin Mccarthy did a good job cutting a deal. But then his rightwing takes his legs out from under him and basically undermines the agreement. I think we simply just have to push aside these characters. There is a way to do it. Most of these members dont want to deal with that group that wants to blow the place up every day. There is a way out. But the party has to be for someone who is forwardlooking, and returns to something that was better. We had to have it for people like mitt romney in congress, the kind of the republican guys that identified. With lets talk about that. The way that the party goes down the road its talking about is to leadership, it is through people. Charlie talks about there but we can, party the new Republican Party, in the Republican Party that folks on Strong National defense, free markets, and being socially tolerant. That describes mitt romney. Yeah, you know, i dont think people abandoned it. Ople the conclusion i came to after trump was that a lot of these things but i think were values just turned out to be, for most of these people, marketing slogans. Character counts. Stronger national defense. The deficit matters. Its not that the party has drifted away from those things, the party has become opposed to those things. And why do you do that . You only do that if you never really believed in these things. So, i really dont see a path forward, as long as Republican Party rejects every chance it has to go in a different direction. It could impeach donald trump. They didnt. Well theyll trumps. Back you have someone who is a Majority Leader of the senate who is, minority, and who is afraid to say Donald Trumps name. Mitch mcconnell wants a Donald Trumps name. So, at a certain point, leadership has to be about something close to courage, and this is a party that has become dominated by cowardice. And, charlie, do you see that ability to get the party there or somehow, or are you one of those people who shares the view that the Republican Party is going to have to the sort of almost crunched out of existence before can rebuild. Can the hold be taken back on the party at any point in the near future . In the near future, i dont think so. And thats really concerns. Me but that doesnt mean we shouldnt try. Those of us who want to get back to something better. And what stuart just said about some of these convictions who were not stronglyheld, or i gotta tell you, ali. I remember back when donald trump proposed tariffs on, naming a National Security on still loom to places like canada. I objected to that in the caucus. I thought this was a strong Hill Position that we believed in freer trade, and this is insulting to go to our canadian allies and say, you know, your National Security threat, so are going to post tariffs on your still looming. Am i, said it had barack obama proposal like that, we wouldve had a bill on the floor that day, and we wouldve stuck it you know where, and i said we should do the same thing now that donald trump has done. It and i was shocked so many of my colleagues in time didnt want to lift a finger. I said, but this was a core principle. And i just woke up and said that maybe some of these principles werent that strongly held. Answered all trump just in and go on a completely different direction and too many would just blindly follow him. I will tell, you charlie. You are also welcome on the show. But saying these nice things about canada just got you your next invitation, will be scheduling with u. S. Soon as we go to a commercial. 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