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MSNBCW With All Due Respect April 13, 2016

Conventions. We start by looking at the pair of two front wars starting with the democrats. New polls from quinnipiac university, nbc marist, showing Hillary Clinton leading Bernie Sanders, 53 to 48 in new york. 49 to 43 in connecticut. And yet, on the eve of the Clinton Sanders debate in brooklyn, tensions are high in their camps that are important tots left, such as guns, wall street and fracking. Today, sanders picked up his first endorsement from a colleague, and he campaigned with a union, picketing communications giant, verizon. So john, how is Hillary Clinton doing in her attempt to bring the left into her camp while she continues to battle Bernie Sanders . Well, a couple of different lefts, right. The left that is the activist, the feel the bern. I dont think she is doing a great job according to them. Its too early for that. National Action Network today, she had a strong speech there, appealing to africanamericans. The parts of the left that Hillary Clinton has performed well with, she continues to perform well with and shoring them up with those groups. I think shell turn them out and thats a key component holding onto the nomination, the lead she has and competing in the fall. A lot of Bernie Sanders who speak disparagingly about Hillary Clinton. Thats true. Theyre in you to the process. The calculation to win the votes may not require getting them. But i think the clinton people understand that simultaneously, when and if she vanquishes Bernie Sanders, she will need to do something for those people on the left and move to the center. But i will say her greatest gift would be if donald trump or ted cruz of the republican nominee, that will bring a lot of democrats home from the left. I believe she needs those votes. If you think about that coalition, barack obama put together, millennials and big numbers, big percentage was a big part of how he was able to win, getting over 270 electoral votes. She doesnt need the stories how people will sit at home and sit on their hands. Donald trump may bring people out if he is the nominee. Just anecdotally, i meet sanders voters all the time who did not vote for barack obama. New people. Its their first time to vote. Now to republicans, donald trump polling numbers are just as hefty as Hillary Clinton in the upcoming states. Trump is north of 50 in new york, here, and also in connecticut which could essentially winner take all for collecting the delegates. More than a 20 point lead according to polling over ted cruz and john kasich in maryland. Clinching the nomination before the summer. Today brought news that trump has hired veteran competitive rick wiley who previously worked for the Republican National committee, and most recently, Scott Walkers Campaign to work under the also recently hired Paul Manafort as Trumps National political director. Yet, for all of that, republican frontrunner still battling openly and bitterly over the delegate selection process. How is trump doing on in the battle to try to bring the establishment into his camp . Today, as a snapshot, not so well. You know, the reaction im hearing about rick wiley being hired, oh, good for rick. He signed on with the frontrunner. But how dare he, how disappointing. Doing it for all the wrong reasons, for sure. This a problem for trump right now. He is at war with the Republican National committee by his own choice. He thinks, and they think it will be fine if he wins the nomination. But obviously still a huge antiTrump Movement. The last thing ill say is there was a period that now seems laughable when you saw stories that we hate ted cruz so much, maybe trump is better. Trump has a long way to go to unify his party. There is a difference between, look, i think there is no people have written many stories and correct to write them. Bringing in Paul Manafort suggests that trump is trying to professionalize his campaign. On the other hand, that has nothing do with this broader question of getting mainstream Establishment Republicans at large at the electorate or the establishment, which is another inside game, but not the inside, inside, inside campaign consultants. Since Chris Christie and jeff sessions, there has not been an endorsement like that. Continues to be remarkable, ted cruz has gotten virtually no endorsements since wisconsin. Well talk about cruz in a second. Trump has a long way to go. Long way to go. Broader establishment is getting worst rather than better. And the donors. All right, whenever people bring up Donald Trumps numbers, the answer is always the same. Those numbers will change and improve, once he turns his full attention, including his naming against Hillary Clinton. John, leaving aside personal attacks, which would certainly be part of a trump clinton general election, what would trump use as issues to his benefit in a hypothetical general election . Well, i mean, you cant imagine. He has had a hard time sticking with the economic message that gave him first entree, in the hearts and minds of the voter. If he decided to be disciplined about that and tried to argue that he is a manager, understands business, worked in the private sector and understands World Affairs on the economic level, better than Hillary Clinton, he could make claims to that, and i think he will try, and he will try to say that on issues like trade, although she has moved to the left in the sanders trump world, that trump is more credible on that, given his. I think he would use immigration as an issue against her. Campaign finance, i think he would go deep into the clinton foundation, the super pacs, all the questions of big money. And the last issue i think he would do is economics. Even though it wont be a positive agenda, he would try to hang the obama economy around her neck. Well, and i think that the question is not in this case will or could. Right, could, he could do all those things. But as i said at the very beginning of my rather too long aer, he has not proven very disciplined sticking at what could be useful messages. The question is whether he is able to do those things, even if theyre available to him. Theyre available. Foreign policy, hell ask her what, did you accomplish as secretary of state. That is issue based. A lot of democrats struggled to answer that question. He knows more about Foreign Policy than he does. When we come back, ted cruz ballot ballet, right after this. Tired of working for peanuts . 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To pull it off, the republican donor class, which may or may not be persuaded that cruz is the only alternative to trump as the nominee. My question is if trump doesnt get enough delegates to secure the nomination on the first ballot, will the money be open to the idea of the second, third, fourth ballot. Its a possibility. Ted cruz Public Performance style changes dramatically. And he has had some success in new york and chicago, and atlanta, l. A. , san francisco, but if we get to cleveland and if it is clear that trump could get the nomination unless ted cruz is the consensus choice on the first ballot of the money class and then the second and third, i think hell get a lot. It could be desigh sieve in winning the nomination. Dirty little secret ted cruz, whose wife works for goldman sachs, and played it down in other plays, but it shows he has a cultural infinity for people who work at these institutions of the moneyed class, and i think thats that i think plays to his advantage. The other dirty little secret in new york city, you go around to people who work in finance, a lot of them dont know donald trump, the ones who do know him, they dont hate him, but they dont particularly like him. He is not of the wall street class. Another group of the money class that will be huge in cleveland. Lobbyis lobbyists, who will be all over the place and who faced with the choice of trump or cruz, could well swing to trcruz and i thin theyll help to create a dynamic in cleveland if it comes to that, time to vote for cruz. Noticeable you havent heard ted cruz talking like the old ted cruz of old. Talking like the antiestablishment, an antiwashington, the kind of jerk, a lot of washington establishment thought he was in. Lately, he has not been saying those things. He knows he needs them. It was a full house, family style. Donald trumps town hall last night, the republican frontrunner appeared on a cnn stage with his wife and four adult children, who all had very loving words to say about what it was like to grow up trump. I always have been i think a very good father. Always very important to me. A lot of people say to me my children have done a good job. Greatest father in the world. Amazing deal maker. Just always had so much love for us in this whole family. He is an amazing guy. One my best friends in the entire world. Ive witnessed these incredible female role models in the highest executive positions in the trump organization, the way he raised me, the way he raised tiffany, its a testament to the fact that he believes and Inspiring Women and empowering women. He always taught me there wasnt anything i couldnt do. If i set my mind to it. My father, since ive been a little girl, has always inspired me, and had so much faith in me to just be the best opinion i can be, the best woman i can be. He treats everyone equally. If you are a woman and he attacks, they attack him, he will attack back. No matter who you are. Ive never had a drink. I never had a glass of alcohol and i own the largest winery in the east coast. My brother, just was so instrumental and probably shaping my life, because i dont know what the outcome would have been. When my children were growing up, even when they didnt know what drinking was, i would say no alcohol, no cigarettes, no drugs. Was that something you remember distinctly growing up. Absolutely. Everyday of our life. Every morning. Dont drink, dont do drugs. Every morning. Without fail. Trump has done other town halls on tv, including the ms in. Bc he did with Chris Matthews that got a lot of attention. Everyone who watched last night, they were impressed stylistically. Why do you think that was. I was impressed. I was including you. Right. He was a normal candidate. Thats the most striking thing about it. The kids have a reputation for being very nice, yvonivonka, a person. This was not donald trump in all of his trumpian craziness, most striking about his candidacy were missing. Just an average, ordinary guy coming on stage. That was very striking to almost anybody watching. Proud father, proud grandfather. Long stretches he could have talked and chose not to and let them talk. All the kids are impressive and funny and interesting. And it just, it was more like a normal family, and he was more like a normal person than he has come across in a while. The validation they bestow upon him, nothing like it. The only problem for him is that he will go out several hours later, i think sometimes to their frustration, and behave in ways that are outsized and cartoon ish and offensive to people. As you hear all the time, theyre telling him to be more president ial, because what they seem to want is to have more of the donald trump they know and what we saw on stage last night to be more of his public persona, rather than the cartoonish one we see more frequently. Behaving like a normal person is a good day for him. I agree with that. Washington post Fact Checkers have been handing out more pinocchios lately. On the democratic side, they called out Bernie Sanders claim that he visited a g plant in vermont. They knocked down Hillary Clintons insinuation guns from vermont that are used in new york crimes, three pin neke cos. No kinder to jane sanders for repeating a debunked claim on this show on monday that the sanders household has released full tax returns for several years. Plenty of well documented misleading statements from donald trump and his fellow republicans as well, but we cant list them, because the show is only an hour long. So mark, my question is, republican and democratic pinocchios, do they matter in 2016 . I love fact checking. I think its great. Good for mark. Tamerica. The problem is, there is so much spin, so much effort made to knock down and some pinocchios that its hard to differentiate. This is my criticism. White noise. Which is, you know, they give three to so many things, its hard to say what really is a foul as opposed to an infraction. Also, they try to distinguish between foul and infraction by the number of pinocchios, right, but the problem is so many given out, its hard to distinguish a lie about a big thing or little thing. Correct. You could have a big lie about a little thing and tell a smaller lie about a really important thing that i think is way more politically consequential and substantial substantially, too. Also the other thing of course that we remarked on many times. Our news cycle just moves so fast, the combination of the white noise element youve cited and the speed at which this whole thing progresses, its hard for any of these things to take hold and be something that has, again, just political consequence. Something that really matters in the way the old Fact Checkers not called Fact Checkers, used to be called newspaper when we were young men. Three pinocchios, not twodimensional. As you said, it moves so fast, its hard to determine it sticking. Coming up, travel downtown to Washington Square park, where Bernie Sanders is holding a rock concert rally with a bunch of celebrities tonight. Well check in down there, after words from our sponsor. And so my new packing robot will make jet warehouses even more efficient and save shoppers money. Genius oh. No. Charlene . No. Charlene. No. Charlene. Why is she wearing earrings . Why is it a she . Shh. At jet. Com, were always looking for unbelievable money saving innovations. 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Were on a sidewalk behind the barriers that have been set up for the park, where theyre working on letting people in. This is an important venue. Barack obama did a huge rally there on his way to the white house. Symbolically important event or just another run of the mill rally . No, i think this is very symbolically important for the sanders campaign. One of three major rallies they have planned for the city and its boroughs over the next couple of days. Of course, theyre hopeliing fo show of force in Hillary Clintons adopted hometown, if you will. I think the question is whether or not it came too late. We felt this race shift away from Bernie Sanders over the course of the past couple of days, so im interested to see whether or not this is something that sticks around and resonates and gives people a reason to give him another look in the New York Primary. Kasie, explain what

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