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MSNBCW With All Due Respect July 7, 2016

Information on her email server. For more than four hours, comey answered questions about the bureaus yearlong investigation which republicans say held clinton to a different and lower standard than other government employees. Comey all day was cool and confident as he over and over gave virtually no ground to critics of his view of the case. Republicans main line of attack was not that clinton should have been indicted although they mentioned that quite a bit and are frustrated by comey on that point, but what they harped on was this. That clinton was not entirely truthful in her past statements about her emails including under oath. The chairman of the committee, jason chaffetz, said he would send a referral to the fbi to investigate clintons testimony which she gave under oath during the Benghazi Committee hearing last october. So heres comey answering questions today. Did you look at the Clinton Foundation . Im not going to comment on the existence or nonexistence of any other investigations. Was the Clinton Foundation tied into this investigation . Im not going to answer that. So that is a bombshell of sorts that occurred very late in the hearing when comey was asked if the investigation included the Clinton Foundation. We will talk about that in a minute. But that is one thing republicans have really seized on. The other thing of course they seized on is this question of clintons truthfulness. So john, overall, how did comey do, how did the republicans on the committee do and what is the bottom line now for Hillary Clinton . I will answer briefly. At first, at least. Comey gave a master class in how you go up to capitol hill and deal with the oversight Committee Hearing of this kind. He was as you said calm, cool, confident, collected, authoritative and had grace under pressure. I yesterday said i thought republicans probably couldnt do a creditable job on such short notice, especially given their history. I actually thought the Committee Conducted itself reasonably well, especially with such short notice although i dont think they advanced the ball very much politically, and i think for Hillary Clinton, this basically concludes a week that because it ended the threat of indictment, both because comey and Loretta Lynch saying there will be no indictment, this hearing was in the balance, good for her, not bad for her, and she is very close to being able to put this entire thing behind her as a legal political matter. I have one big negative to say about comey and negative things to say about the republicans on the committee and how they did but lets take a little bit of look at how comey did which on balance, as you said, for Hillary Clintons point of view and for his own point of view, very strong. I believe this investigation was conducted consistent with the highest traditions of the fbi. There are two things that matter in a criminal investigation of a subject. What did the person do and when they did that thing, what were they thinking. We dont want to put people in jail unless we prove that they knew they were doing something they shouldnt do. No reasonable prosecutor would bring the second case in a hundred years focused on gross negligence. Should have known, must have known, had to know, does not get you there. You must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they knew they were engaged in something that was unlawful. So comey frustrated republicans on and off the committee today because he basically did almost everything he could to help Hillary Clinton, or so it seemed. A lot of them pointed to the fact he said over and over when pressed that he couldnt say what kind of penalty someone who worked for him who did what Hillary Clinton did, he said it could range from dismissal to, you know, reproach. He did not give a lot of stuff for republicans to work with even when pressed. However, hes going around saying today as he did on tuesday i want to be transparent, i need to be transparent. He did not take any questions from reporters again today, and hes not being totally straight about things. For instance, theres a standard of going out and talking about this case but refusing to talk about the Clinton Foundation case, i dont get. My bigger criticism is of the republicans on the committee, yes, they only had a day and a half to prepare but the chairman chose not to waive the rule that limits everybody to fiveminute blocks for questions. There wasnt a democrat on the Committee Interested in getting at any facts. They were just there to help Hillary Clinton. Which is par for the course in washington now in partisan hearings. But no republican with the exception of one or two got any momentum on questions and a lot of them just wasted their five minutes. So Hillary Clinton i think won the day. Comey helped her a lot but so did the republicans on the committee who just werent ready to have the kind of strategy. Wasnt as bad as the benghazi hearing but they did not have a strategy. There were a couple other important things. We will talk more about this with brian fallon but one important thing to my mind, one of the big criticisms was when comey said he wasnt going to recommend an indictment, he said it was because you couldnt prove intent. A lot of republicans a couple days ago said thats not the standard under the law. The standard, it could be gross negligence under the laws. Comey had strong responses to that and made good arguments for why that wasnt really the standard and shouldnt be the standard under the law. He also i think cleared up some things with respect to the markings, the classified markings on a very small number of emails in a way that both was clarifying and also i think politically helpful for the Clinton Campaign. Im sure thats a point brian will make when we talk to him later in the show. All right. Lets move on here to donald trump. Meanwhile, the republican presumptive nominee made a rare appearance on capitol hill today, meeting behind closed doors with house and Senate Republicans. Reviews from rank and file house members were mixed about that first meeting in the morning. Some like georgia congressman tom price called trumps pitch a quote, unifying speech, while others said it did not change their view, their negative views of the partys divisive presumptive nominee. Trumps meeting with the Senate Republicans that came afterwards was apparently somewhat less collegial than the morning meeting with the house. Trump reportedly called out some senators who refused to back his candidacy including arizonas jeff flake, who in turn reportedly urged trump to stop attacking mexicans. These meetings come 24 hours after trump said yesterday would be quote, in his words, devoted to crooked Hillary Clinton and the rigged system under which we live. Thats what he said yesterday morning. Yet last night, trump spent long stretches of his rally in cincinnati meandering through a wide array of topics including, yes, mosquitos. I used to talk about japan. Now i talk more about china but its still japan. I could talk about my grandchildren. Lets see. Then we talk about golf. Jack nicholas is the greatest guy and hes a friend of mine. Bobby knight. Bobby knight. Ladies and gentlemen, the president is going to talk about his grandchildren. I love my protesters. Dont we have any damn protesters today . I love Saddam Hussein. I hate Saddam Hussein. But i love Saddam Hussein. This really stupid guy. I wont use his name. I refuse to use his name. I refuse to call him sleepy eyes. The problem is im a professional and they love ivanka and they love melania. He wants Bernie Sanders for vice president. Thats a new one. Big don king. Newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. That i can tell you. Okay . Isnt it nice when you dont read from a speech . Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. Maybe ill open it on november 7th, the day before the big day. My boy, i love you. Come up, eric. I love you, my boy. I love this. I look thin. Relatively thin. The democrats, there was a mosquito. I dont want mosquitos around me. I dont like mosquitos. All right. So mark, last night, that speech got lets say mixed reactions from republicans and then today, trump also got mixed reactions from Congressional Republicans so at this hour, in the last say 12 hours or so, 16 hours, 18 hours, has trump helped or hurt his efforts to unify the Republican Party under his leadership . Its extremely mixed. I think on balance, hes doing fine, getting ted cruz, the meeting with the House Republicans and the generallying around the anticlinton reality that trump represents. On balance, hes having a good week so far in terms of unifying but the outliers, hes picking fights with some republican senators today, its just not helpful. But the truth is, if trump picks a good running mate, here i go into my broken record mode, picks a good running mate, has a good convention and good first debate, he will have all the unity he needs. If he doesnt execute on those three, a meeting on Capitol Hills not going to make any difference. Look, if you look at the reporting coming out of those meetings today on capitol hill, i think theres no question that on balance, he helped himself. The reaction of house members more positive than the reaction of some Senate Republicans. In terms of the unity project, a good day for trump today on capitol hill. I think his performance last night, however, just sowed even deeper doubts among republican political professionals, elected officials and probably some of the same congressmen and senators in those meetings today about his ability to do the basic work that any president winning, winning president ial candidate has to do, which is to maintain some degree of message, discipline and focus and talk about the things you should be talking about that help you get closer to winning the election. He did not if my view do any of that last night and is not in any way capitalized effectively on Hillary Clintons moment of vulnerability postcomey. More staff coming on board, they seem clearly still flailing a bit or casting about for the right running mate selection, and the conventions still coming together. Trump promised a convention schedule, dont have it. Its all going to be up to trump. He will win or lose on this level of performance. Im convinced. Hillary clinton, Bernie Sanders and their unity project continue to move along. They are reportedly in talks about the possibility of holding an endorsement event together next week in new hampshire, on tuesday. Thats the same state where the Obama Clinton unity event was in 2008. Sanders has of course withheld fullthroated support for clinton as he tries to pull both her and the Democratic Party further to the left on his many policy fronts. Hes doing all right so far. Hes had some success on his wish list. You have the education event yesterday, then today, sanders did an interview with al hunt of Bloomberg View for charlie rose, talked about some additional areas of possible consensus. What has to be on the platform right now, we have made real progress. I want to see very specific language about raising the minimum wage to 15 an hour. I believe that in this country, people who work 40 hours a week should not be living in poverty. They call for it now in the platform. No, they dont. Its nuanced. It has to go further. Yeah. It has to be clear. Second of all, i think we need to make sure that the tpp, transpacific partnership, which is in my view a continuation of disastrous trade policies in the past, which have cost us millions of decent paying jobs, have led to a race to the bottom, i think we should be very clear in saying that should not come up in the lame duck session. Senator sanders, that would be a direct slap at barack obama hoshgs who is the most popular democrat in the party right now. I know you are opposed to it. Opposing it is not a slap. But saying im sorry, mr. President , you cant bring that up in a lame duck you know, i had the impression we lived in a democratic society. Sanders full interview, you can see tonight on charlie rose on pbs. Tomorrow it airs on bloomberg tv. It looks like at this point that Hillary Clintons in the home stretch. She will get Bernie Sanders support from him. Where does she stand with the sanders backers now . I dont know the answer to that question. There is still obviously a very loud and raucus group of supporters you run across out in the world and on social media who seem to be really dead enders on this question. I think shes done herself a lot of good. Certainly as you said with sanders himself. Theres no doubt some of the proposals, some of the platform language will get her part of the way there. I do not know, a lot is going to come down to how does that endorsement event if it happens, how does it go and what does sanders say about her not just that day but in the days after that endorsement all the way through to philadelphia . We just dont know that yet. Yeah. I think also, her running mate and Convention Choices will be a big deal as well. I allot of people on the left could be persuaded by symbolism if she picks someone further to the left, if prominent convention speakers, keynote speaker, et cetera. And do they talk, the marquee speakers, do they talk about issues that matter to sanders supporters. I think that event coming after the republican convention, when there will be a lot out there to remind sanders supporters why a lot of them would prefer Hillary Clinton over donald trump, why they might need to rally even if they dont like everything about her. Up next, we will talk about two Police Shootings that are once again drawing protests around the country. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework. Wire. And plants needed to give my shop. A face. No one will forget. See what the power of points can do for your business. Learn more at chase. Com ink in the past 48 hours, two more American Cities have been convulesed by the fatal shootings of africanamerican men by white Police Officers. The first shooting happened tuesday night in baton rouge. Videos of the encounter appear to show police pinning a 37yearold man, alton sterling, to the ground when one of the officers pulls out and fires his gun. The Baton Rouge Police chief says sterling was armed at the time he was killed. Justice department has opened a civil rights investigation of that case. Then on wednesday night, another video from a suburb of st. Paul, minnesota, after getting pulled over for a brocken tail light, 32yearold Philando Castile was shot by police in the front seat of a car while his girlfriend and her young daughter were also inside the vehicle. He reportedly had a concealed carry permit and told the officer that he had a firearm in the glove compartment. Joining us now from Princeton University to talk about all this is eddie glaud, the chair of the center for africanamerican studies. Professor, good to have you. Just give us a sense, what are we to make of these two shootings and what are the implications of them . It seems like this is incredibly familiar thing we are going through once again. Give us an overview what you think. I think it confirms for us we have a crisis in policing in this country. That we need to do more than just simply talking about talk about common sense policing. We need to talk about whats at the core of these shootings and i think its a set of assumptions about who black people are and how those assumptions inform fears and how those fears are justifications for this kind of behavior. Its very hard to talk about. Its very hard to wrap ones mind around this. For me, it confirms what i have been arguing and that is that theres a value gap at the heart of American Society and that value gap is the belief that white People Matter more than others, and we see this over and over again in these sorts of instances. Even the minnesota governor said if this was a white couple in the suburbs of st. Paul, that they would still the driver would still be alive. So its devastating. Im really angry, you know. Im really trying to manage my emotions because it reflects in some way this idea of the precariousness of what it means to be black in this country. That any time you walk out of your house, you dont know if thats going to be the last time you breathe your last breath. Simply because youre black. Im a professor at princeton. Yeah. Professor, its been an extraordinarily emotional period for everybody and the fact that the video from this morning is just so heartbreaking. Just focus for a moment on positive. What is a city or state or anybody doing that you have seen that gives you some hope that theres best practices out there that people can adopt . Well, to be honest with you, im not in that mode yet. I dont know examples tend to jump to come to mind. Im still thinking about Alton Sterlings son and him weeping. Im still thinking about Diamond Reynolds 4yearold daughter. Can you imagine in that moment, the 4yearold daughter is saying mommy, im here for you, dont worry, mommy, she finds the resources within herself to try t

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