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PRESSTV Gaza July 6, 2024

Flying over the gaza strip all the time, and so the most vulnerable there children who have suffered trauma and lot of pain, seeing parents and friends and others getting killed, but what is happening is people in the gaza strip as close nit as they are, taking it upon themselves to make sure that they do something whatever they can to alleviate some of the pain that these children have had endure. I think its a beautiful thing that we have seen over the past three months of course again born out of tragedy, but to see that everybody is looking out for each other, there are children who have been orpened, you are still unable to speak, unable to recognize um who their family are etc. And they have been taken in by other families because they know that you know all of palestinian children are their children. If theyre hurting so are they, um, their sons and daughters are also their own um and. And and this is a great example of that. The one way in which the Palestinian People can win is by making sure that their moral and their spirit remains high and i think that we forget that element of the of warfare that. Its about morale and its about keeping faith and keeping strength, and this is such of an essential part of it. They have tried to take away all of childrens resources, they have no schools to go to, they have no hospitals to seek shelter in, so they will find ways in which to look after the children, entertain them and keep their morale and their spirit high. Its like they say, bloody, but unbowed. Lativa, thank you. Latifa, well be back with. More tomorrow, people from all walks of life have been using different mediums to express their solidarity with the oppressed Palestinian People. Earlier we spoke to poet fatima valgi who shared the poem she wrote expressing the palestinian struggle through the symbolism of the red poppy native to palestine. Rooted flood of crimson poppies, soaking green. Fields sinking soil seeps as palestine weeps, blood, her olives land identity, like the scarlet enemy, stolen, colonized, appropriated, suddenly, lauffably, israeli, a wild ancient seed, german mading in soil that buried many generations of palestinians past a shaqay now recast israels National Flower calanit erasing replacing her 12 arabic names, long woven through palestinian hair, literature, medicine, folk tales, as old as the narled olive trees tended by calisted arab hands for centuries. And yet, in torturous spite of land and people colonized, the ancient hills of galilee still bloom wildly, defiantly, rooted in deep fertile pain a palestine occupied. Dehumanized, slain, they deepen their scarlet flush, weeping tears of blood, solidarity. Resilient hills of green and crimson flame, calling to all beyond the palestinian plane, from our fire distill unwavering love, collective will, sacrifice, until our colors mark freedoms flag, sewn from the scars of stateless, voiceless ex. Rise until our tradition, history, identity, reclaim their rightful integrity, break distorted colonial narratives and set the truth free, rise, rise, resist, we also asked fatima about her artistic inspiration and why the sentiments and her work remain as relevant as ever, the one of the most painful things is that this is such a long long struggle, its been so many decades, its and its such total erasure of people and it it just feels like, mean i the first, i started writing poetry actually um because of palestine to be fair, it was about 15 years ago and after watching an old documentary now 101 and im sure you might have heard of it, um, it just, i was so upset and distressed and feeling guilty and ashamed and all those feelings that you have, and so i just started writing, and that was the first poem i wrote, it was called the mother in palestine, and basically since i started writing since then, but the first kind of raw feelings that triggered poem was was was palestine, um, and it just, you just dont expect. That the situation will get worse and worse, but it does, it just does every you know, each decade is worse than the last. Youre watching gaza under attack with me and my guests tarthman here in the studio with me and Ibrahim Jamal via skype also from london. Now let me go straight to abraham, we see there with that contribution earlier that resistance and solidarity are coming in in many different forms. What would you say of anything to someone who wants to get involved in the pro palestine movement, but is afraid the potential blowback . Yes, that poem was eloquent and moving, so someone who wants to get involved, i would say write petitions, petition your local council, you can also download the apps like no thanks, this is an app that lists boycott, boycotted. Products, any products that are affiliated with israel, so what you do is you would scan the barcode and it will automatically tell you if it supports israel by giving funds, if its complicit or not, more than that, the app, you can donate money, now ive got friends in gaza and they are in the need of assistance, food and water, but when when i did go to give a money he he told me you know there is no food so what were going to do with the money so be before anything um something has to change on the ground and attending protests raising funds these are all ways that we can show uh we can convert our emotions into Political Action they do have a place and they do matter. Absolutely and in addition to what we heard ibrahim say there are other people are saying one of the ways to keep the pressure on the government to take some kind of action would be to take direct action yeah as we have seen uh groups such as Palestine Action do so uh which was to lay siege to Elbit Systems the israeli weapons manufacturer that has several sites in the uk yes to their sites and try to shut them down and they have managed to do so uh in the case of two yes what are your thoughts on that . Um, i i think its its very inspiring. Um, i have um, to one of those particular sites, i was there with with a Palestine Action allied group, it wasnt Palestine Action themselves, but it was the same sort of idea, um, and i i saw with my own eyes how effective it was, um, you know, its its its the its were were at the point now where no single one of us is going to have the ability to singlehandedly um end. Genocide um, but theres a very interesting quote that ive heard that i always think about, and its um, i cant do anything colone, said 7 billion people, and thats the idea and theres a lot i think you know popular movements and movements directly targeting um factories for example i mean factories shut down for a day thats one days less of drones or or sniper um or drones or sniper um scopes that that havent been made um and top of that i think its more than that more than whether its effective its you know how what kind of person would you be if you slept through a genocide, exactly. Whether its effective or not, doing something, doing interviews, um, but protesting, doing direct action for me at least is what allows me to is what i think ill be able to say maybe in 10, 20 years when ive had my own children, ill be able to say, you know, your dad wasnt entirely useless, or i did what i could in my capacity to bring about change, exactly, exactly, and that quote you mentioned was, i, i saw this exact same quote. What you just what just said there . Amazing, yes, you know, um, many hands do light work like they say, definitely, people, if they came together as we saw in their hundreds of thousands in the streets of london over the past um, more than two months of course, um, can bring about change, perhaps one of the reasons why we see a shift in policy at the highest. Shalon of power in the uk is public pressure. All right, um, i think i can quickly go back to ibrahim as well. Um, one thing and this the question that ive been asking everybody is just like because i have two very young people on the show today. One thing we have seen and witnessed in the different protests was the presence of lot of young people. Um, i just wanted you to. Comment on that and and and think about why it is that we are getting so many people from the Younger Generation participating in these pro palestine solidarity movements and and protests. Yes, i think the future belongs to the Younger Generation, they are people with imagination and they are not doled by their experience, they still have. And they dont accept something thats gone on for so long as excuse, so when they see crimes of humanity being committed or displaced children, bombs on schools and hospitals, they say thats not okay, they will attend those marches and they will theyll shout you free palestine from the river to the sea and you can see the impact from israeli Spokes Person and the politicians with their rhetoric, now theyre arguing stuff like, oh this is antisemitic, that this means you want to wipe out all israel, you know, freedom, they want to argue against words and expressions, so all of these um actions, they are having an effect, yeah, and it goes to show that um, those that challenge the status quo um, happen to um create movement from behind it, you know, its the radicals uh, its its the people that change what others say, no, it cant be done, or yeah, so thats why i think um, lot of um, Young Children or or or individuals, i will, i will later uh, try and pick up on the allegations of antisemitism, if we get the chance, but for now, the head of the International Committee of the red cross says the use of public denouncements hasnt proving effective for the humanitarian group, after israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyaho urged her to put more public pressure on hamas. Marianna spolyarek spoke to reporters in geneva after recent trips to both gaza where she visited the Red Cross Hospital and to israel where she met with benjamin netanyahu. Video released by his office of his meeting shows netanyahu braiding the red cross president. Since last friday, as i was returning from israel, um, talks seem to have resumed in doha and the two sides are talking again with katar, we continue to talk to all sides to then be ready to operationalize the agreement that they reach. Our conversations with hamas, including my own, are very concrete, very detailed, direct and ongoing on a daily basis and the same happens with israel authority, we are constantly in touch at the current level of hostility, so meaningful humanitarian response. Remains extremely difficult if not impossible, you have to see the high number of civilians coming on the fire, being either killed or injured, severely wounded with less and less medical capacity to preserve their lives. I have been asked to publicly denounce so many things since i joined office, if if i were following up on all of these requests, i would be denouncing several times a day, and imagine what authority would be left for the icsec. Public denouncements are not a tool that has proven effective, um, but it exposes us to lot of criticism all the time, because without neutrality we wouldnt be able to operate, without confidentiality when it needs to be applied, we wouldnt be successful. Fahim muhammad is back with her second batch of stories on the Media Coverage the gazan genocide, good to have you back, fahima, take it away, well. Im sure were not surprised by this uh young female journalist and we are very very pleased and honored to have people reporting from the ground, but unfortunately the stories are absolutely tragic and were going to hear what she has to say about the bombardment at the moment and what is actually being faced by everyday people, and even if we survived the white phosphorus, even if we survived the bombing. In in the schools, in the hospitals in our homes, there is no food, there is water, there is no clean food, there is no clean water to drink, all what we have is the water, salty water from the sea, now the sea heartbreaking to watch and listen and hear, and at the same time even if aid is going in there, its being blocked by the israelis, so the accessibility is als also another thing that theyre fighting in order to get the daily sort of aid thats been you know delivered and it doesnt end there with food and hunger theres disease and there the winter chill that is threatening the survival of its just one thing after another like she mentioned and its more than heartbreaking honestly to watch and its its i know youre trying to fight back tears but yeah its its horrendous absolutely well weve also got um people going there from unicef weve got james edler whos been constantly reporting and these are people who are doing the actual observations and actually knowing exactly what needs to be done and said and they are bringing out their voices for people to make these decisions in you amongst the leaders and ministers and again theyre not being really taken seriously and you can hear the frustration and anger in his voice strip remains the most dangerous place in the world to be a child uh and day after day that brutal reality is reinforced over the. Past 48 hours, the largest remaining fully functional hospital uh in gaza has been shelled twice. Im furious, im furious that those with power shrug as the humanitarian nightmares unleashed a million children. Im furious that children who are recovering from amputations in hospitals are then killed in those hospitals. Im furious that there are more children hiding as we speak so anyone with heart whos listening to this and as we are here reporting every single day we still cant get used to hearing something. Like this and its just something that really needs to be done and again were getting professionals that are in the actual strip and in the actual areas to report this back, but still its nothing thats been done, and is those images that are showing us that israel is bombing the gaza strip in a way that will impact lives for decades to come, absolutely, absolutely, and the next one even the next clip even shows um a school being bombed and again the responses from those who are actually bombing and its like as if you know theyre playing a game. Was that the un school they bombed few days ago . Yes, and again its not filled with any sort of militants, anyone that is there to sort of give any threats and again theyre just trying to destroy all the infrastructure so that even if they were to come back its in you now hebitable, you cannot stay there, you cannot live there, you can. Not go back and even rebuild, thats the the level of destruction thats been done right now, and add to that, the unexploded munitions that will some of them american made, that will continue to take lives for years to come, all right fahim, thank you, see you again tomorrow, welcome, all right, lets continue the conversation with my guests um as we have been for the past hour, um, i think i can go to ibrahim now. And put the next question to him, one thing ive heard is pro israel commentators and others calling to question the accounts that are being pr the different pretty bodies, the socalled professor of the university of harvard, if im not wrong, saying the red cross, theyre all in the pockets of hamas, exact words, but thats much what he was trying to say, why do you think theyre doing that discounting and undermining the accounts of the scale of death and destruction coming out of the god . The their rhetoric has become muh much more extreme, you know, anyone thats against them, and anyone thats not with them is against them and is hamas sympathizer, also the medium in which people consume news now, before we we in the past it was just through the television, now weve got social media, weve got. People with phones and youve also got Israeli Soldiers showcasing their deprivity to the world and smiling about it, so these are undeniable uh truths and people resonate when they see individuals um being massacred. Gaza has lived through, i think four four wars previous to this, each one is gotten worse and the population has become younger and. Younger and uh the rhetoric of people like alan dushowitz is that um hamas recruits child soldiers and the fault is on hamas so and and we see a shift in their rhetoric becoming more extreme you know and these are they dont hold up to academic scrutiny yeah never mind say they make those comments because theyre have no argument, they have lost the argument, im sorry to interject there, ibrahim, let me put some last question quickly to tarak, and that is, given everything were seeing now, lot of things, movements being made as we speak, how do you things see things transpiring moving forward . Um, i think israel has two impossible choices, um, it can carry its assault, and it will, you know, were around two, two and a half months through, and where, you no one can see that. At the end of the tunnel in israel, um, we can carry on for another two, three months, kill maybe 50, 60 thousand people, half of those children, lose public support internationally, but achieve part of part of their stated aims, um, you know, have deal a real blow to hamas, which they have, i think not done so thus far, um, or they can step back and realize that even that will not achieve their aims and that theyre only getting more international. Isolated um and in doing so um they start to work towards a resolution where they um change their policies and their mindset really yeah and end their colonial attitudes in palestine unfortunately as weve seen so far theyve only taken the first option yeah yeah hardly the ladder all right fascinating fascinating conversation gentlemen uh were fresh out of time with those comments were going to wrap this show up many thanks again to my guests for their contributions. Gaza under attack, well be back tomorrow with more. 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