Well, perhaps. How can i tell you that there is no main direction of discussion, or what . Ahh, the previous few sessions were more, lets say, clearly focused on certain, uh, problematic ones now. Eh, someones table fell into flames. Eh, it got a little smaller. Eh, maybe other concerns forced the leaders. Uh, a large state will not come to the assembly. Well, in general, for now i would say that, uh, well, the impression is average, from the session if you like. Thats for today , today, but nevertheless our delegation. Actively working there. And we heard today how many plans there are . How many meetings . This is exactly true. Not only that, well, what international isolation. Well, of course, Sergei Viktorovich loves to joke about this topic. And he well , he always erased the word, but in this case it is clear that the line, as they say, is worth talking to him, and yet. Eh, a question for you, as a specialist in Major International affairs, but it was still possible. Uh, now our delegation. I dont need to evaluate his actions. At the moment. I mean, can the theoretical one still manage to convey his position to the wider circle of participants in International Life . I mean, first of all, of course, not those who already support us. And those who, uh, well, to put it mildly, dont listen to us. I dont take america itself , of course, and europe there. But these are the countries that hesitate. Why do i know this question. Well, for example, egypt will not buy our grain, maybe it is commercial. Maybe there, well, some conditions just didnt work out. Maybe, well, yes, and so on, ours. Eh, for example, the de Beers Company is a south african company. She is now participating in conversations about whether she will be able to withstand the embargo on our diamonds, and india is ready to participate. In correspondingly also negotiations with the seven, and so that i will be persuaded to join these stations. That is , this is some kind of situation. Here, no matter how they commented on it or here, im just unnecessarily worried. Well i would say so that the speech of minister Sergei Lavrov at the meeting of the Security Council was very powerful, very powerful, wellreasoned, and if uh there are people, and i m sure there are, who closely followed this speech for the logic of this speech, then, of course, uh and the russian position. Well, strictly speaking, uh, the real state of affairs, uh, in the ukrainian crisis. It was conveyed to the listeners absolutely clearly, completely intelligibly and logically. As for those, uh, problems that are emerging. I think we uh sometimes a little bit. Uh, well, lets say we simplify the situation and those countries that do not oppose us we enroll in the group. Well, lets say, the support Group Supporting us is not at all like these countries. Uh, they are guided by their own interests and will be guided by them and sometimes these interests. Uh, unfortunately for us they make them, uh, for some Time Partners of other countries to the detriment of the detriment. Yes, but, for example, india is interested today and will be interested for the foreseeable future, in the accelerated Economic Development of headphones and technical development, and here from the point of view of indian colleagues. They have very large resources for developing relations with uh developed countries. The west is primarily connected pants in the field of technology. And after economic relations and so on, egypt, which you mentioned, yes, we have good relations and a history of relations there. Its true, the story is so mixed. There were periods of friendship and cooling and different periods, but we must not forget that egypt is still a country that is one of the leading recipients of American Military assistance and americans certainly set their own conditions. Uh, to those who receive this help. You didnt mention another very important meeting for us, in my opinion, which took place in the fields. I actually have this meeting between the american president and the leader of five Central Asian countries. And here it is. I think we should look very carefully at possible changes in the position of these countries on various issues and, uh, here we should not, we have no right to make gross mistakes, especially with regard to the largest, by area countries in the region of kazakhstan in terms of the leading country, the largest countries by population, uzbekistan, but also other countries where our uh, military bases are located, where uh the countries that are part of the Eurasian Economic Union so there are a lot of things here. We we cant and we shouldnt. Unfortunately, we have to write down even our formal allies of the country, who will support us 100 in all circumstances. Uh. How can you probably evaluate the policy of belarus . But this is the only country with which we managed to build such relations. Yes dmitry comrade. You mentioned bidens meeting with the leaders of central asia, which is now what the region is called. Eh, indeed. I had planned to talk with you on this topic, i honestly admit, a little later, but since we started, uh, this conversation. Yes. Eh, and these countries are ready to replace china in the rare earth metals market; several companies are already ready to sell. I understand that it is impossible. Now, probably, there is a lot of polar world under construction, but really everyone should be smeared with black and white paint. This is ours ally. And this is our enemy, the enemy fell asleep there. And of course, we understand that each side will proceed from its own political interests. If kazakhstan can earn money on rare earth metals for labor. Well, earlier where are the huge reserves. Eh, accordingly, well, why not make money, probably, yes, capitalism, we make money there and and where we want, the countries will say, we are sovereign. You are russians. When you talk about sovereignty , that means, please, here we want, with whom we want , we trade, therefore, in this sense, we have quite vulnerable, it seems, as a position, but nevertheless. What do you think, after all, uh, our politics . You said to drive carefully. And what does this mean, carefully, they dont tell them anything. Thats where their migrants are. Theyre doing some crazy things here. I dont care, guys, everything is fine. Lets not carry this quarrel out of excess. Well, and so on , there is clearly a russophobic policy going on in kazakhstan. They are preparing a number for ukraine. Two. Its obvious. We all have to swallow it all. It doesnt notice anything. On the contrary, i think that we we must, well, lets say, pursue a policy of sincerity, relatively speaking. We must tell our neighbors , our formal partners in the Eurasian Economic Union, our formal allies in organizing collective security treaties. E things directly and what worries us. We must not wait or save up, but speak out directly uh, right at the moment when it happens, in order to be able to be able to rectify the situation at an early stage, because you mentioned several problems uh related to kazakhstan has been running these problems for many years. E, in the name of friendship, cooperation integration. Whatever we uh didnt Pay Attention to those things that we didnt like. As a result, these things. Uh, they perceived steel as they should so, uh, evidence that the country is pursuing sovereign courses, a sovereign course should not, from our point of view, from the point of view of our interests , should not be uh antirussian for now, at least for those countries that are uh our partners our allies. If something is wrong, we must deal with them serious conversation. We have some levers that we dont always use. We have opportunities that, again, we dont always use. And a combination of these levers. If you want pressure, if you want, uh, admonition, if you want, uh, warning and opportunities that we are opening up for our neighbors and partners with our allies. All this should be used quite actively by us , unfortunately, for e. This is the postsoviet period. An attitude has developed towards the former republics of the soviet union as something. Well, i dont want to offend anyone as if its something secondrate. But the west is the first grade. But thats all it seems. Well, this is our former province. These are our former territories. We know everything here, russian. Well, we will close our eyes to something, we will close our eyes to something and and how will we settle all this. This is wrong. I think we have to perceive these countries. How uh how uh hmm the state has already taken place with them an adult conversation. Theyre talking. So to speak, family, as we have been doing for a long time. These are other countries. Even if they are connected with us by some kind of agreements on this, but these are countries that pursue their own policies and are accustomed to receiving a lot from russia that is not particularly special. Without paying, this is another habit that comes from the times of the soviet union. What you said about kazakhstan, in my opinion, is very serious. And uh, and we must keep in mind, generally speaking, that the ruling elites of many countries, including countries. E central asia kazakhstan uh hmm connected by various ties, including material ones, uh, with the strange west and if you integrate into the western system, and many of these elites are built in or members of these individuals are trying to actively integrate into western systems, then , uh, this doesnt work. Uh, free you should basically follow along. Eh, if only they had thrown it in. Eh, here are your things. Eh, the same london yes, it is in general, be kind, you will have to follow something in something, that is, and progressive humanity, which today is located to the west of our borders. So we should, in general, take everything seriously, not bully anyone, not with anyone on purpose, no uh no under no circumstances should we provoke hostility, but we must clearly and calmly defend our interests and promote our interests. Eh, and do this when it is necessary not only consistently, but sometimes even harshly. So its Something Like this. Well, yes. It seems to me that the key phrase was said correctly. That we should have an adult conversation when the child has already left the family, he takes responsibility and certain responsibility for his actions for earning a living, and so on, here and there Something Like that, ah, because its really often heard. Here we will trade, again, using. Eh, heres my position. We are all so sovereign that there is simply nowhere to go. Here. Who do we want to trade with . And at the same time , give us cheap gas. Eh, as it was with ukraine and so on, electricity, the same for kazakhstan well, back and forth. Now i absolutely agree with you, we will not antagonize anyone with anything and there is no need to do this, but we need to call our own things. I think this is the story from armenia and the topic of the week. Uh, and when, after all, lets probably call things with you, and the armenian leadership tried to provoke us. And i think that our uh peacekeepers died not to study, but unfortunately, but to some forces that wanted to drag us into this military adventure. A and how do you assess the agreements that have now been reached, including thanks to our president , our peacekeeper guys, well done a and. Uh, they saved children. Weve shown this many times. We clearly told armenia that we will not fight because of you if your troops no, but there you yourself refused in prague, you are the leadership of armenia, why today this fact is a blatant disgrace, they smeared paint on our embassy, these are tearing up our passports. Well, what is it, in general, you go fight yourself, we will not fight for you. No, or how or how yes, yes, first of all. I would like to, uh, express my admiration for the work of our guys who found themselves between two warring sides and express my condolences to the families. The deaths are a terrible loss. And, of course, we all must, everyone in our country must accept the losses, especially those people who wear our uniform and protect the interests of our country abroad. We must perceive this, uh, not just as a tragedy, but as a blow to our country. And, of course, there is solidarity with those who were directly affected by this tragedy, families with loved ones, and so on. So this is where i would like to start, as for the rest, in my opinion. In the situation with armenia, firstly, of course, russia has been around for a long time. Eh, back in the twentieth year clearly. Well, of course, even earlier in the twentieth year, when e began. Uh, second karabakh war russia at many levels broadcast the same message to the armenians that russia will not fight with azerbaijan. Moreover , for karabakh which is not recognized even from the point of view of armenian legislation as signs of an independent state, but at the same time, i i think its armenian. Case tells us the need to act proactively. Thats my impression. Maybe this is a false impression, but according to my impression, here in the uh in the south caucasus direction the armenianazerbaijani, especially in the armenian we are, uh, in the position of a country that is rather defending itself from uh, various attacks. Eh, from the side of, first of all , the citizens of our allied armenia, azerbaijan is coming. Yes, in this case its correct to blame yourself, but in general, this position came out conditionally , but as for armenia, its unconditional. Some of the opportunities that russia had in the armenian direction are not available. But, for example, russia gives jobs to many armenians. And its all kind of free. And we in no way form uh in armenia well, seriously, of course, we are trying to do it to some extent, but uh, we are not seriously shaping, uh, in armenia, uh, about russian sentiments, the prorussian elites, they dont allow us to do this in many ways, but uh, our people. Eh, this is not the last aggravation of People Associated with russia, journalists were arrested. Uh, representatives of the agency, satellite, and so on. And this is, in general, a blatant violation. Uh, not only uh, in relation to these people, but also in relation to uh, in relation to russia by the armenian authorities. I think here it is clear that russias possibilities are not unlimited. But we need to make it clear to, uh, all our neighbors, allies, friends, whatever you like, that the russian benevolent and desirable attitude towards them. The opportunities that russia creates, including for migrants, are not something that can be perceived as they should be. And a price that needs to be worked off in the same way as russia works off any opportunities that are presented to it in the outside world. Eh, i think that our e policy regarding the strange dkb and the Eurasian Economic Union require serious rethinking serious amplification. In my opinion, the position of our provisions of our words. Uh, in the same astana in tashkent in other countries of the region today is much more important for the countrys Foreign Policy than, say, uh, the position of our money ambassadors, where they are against brussels in copenhagen. Perhaps even in london and paris, this is where we need the best diplomatic personnel. Here we need the best intelligence personnel. If you like. I understand that it seems to be behind the allies. Uh, god, dont watch. Well, generally speaking, e, all other countries do this. I think so we do to some extent, but sometimes we find ourselves in the position of uh a country that uh. Well, lets just say its not going well, there are events ahead. But we need to go ahead of the events and shape them. Perhaps the situation in certain areas that are important to us. Yes, dmitry vitalievich, childhood is probably over, continuing, yes, uh , the comparison that you made, childhood is over, everyone has become adults and for everything in this life we have to pay for everything, including all of our friends and colleagues. And we understand this very well, and dmitry vitalievich thank you very much. It was very interesting talking to you. Were just running out of air time and well meet next time. I hope well go on air and talk. Ill remind you all the best. We talked with dmitry, professor, researcher at the new Higher School of economics, leading researcher at the institute of World Economics , International Relations of iran, ukraine plans to continue the counteroffensive in the fall and winter, Vladimir Zelensky told american journalists about this. However, western ones. The media are already beginning to doubt whether they will be able to to demonstrate some successes in a number of media, including the british magazine economist and the german newspaper diwelt, published skeptical publications about the capabilities of the ukrainian army. Well, of course, stanislav berend will continue the topic with reference to western politicians and experts. The failure of the ukrainian counterregulation and the coming thaw make us think. What will happen at the front in the offseason and what we will face in the winter is not an idle question. I think that after all, the russian winter operation will be, uh, not strategic depth, it will serve operational and tactical purposes. Uh, first of all in its own sense and uh. Her task will again be to create a series for ukraine. Uh, serious, uh, challenges, which kiev will be extremely willing to respond to. It is difficult to answer ukraines huge number of irretrievable losses in manpower, hundreds of dozens, lost expensive western equipment, lack of fighting spirit in the troops and the desire for the kozelensky ghoul. At any cost, i can show at least some victory to my masters; the ukrainian side is now experiencing a shortage of equipment and in the near future, from my point of view , i will also be faced with a lack of combat supplies. And its precisely these factors , that is, the superiority of the russian army in manpower and superiority in technology and the possibility of massive use of ammunition that creates the preconditions for an offensive. The russian militaryindustrial complex is approaching winter with colossal production growth. These include artillery systems. Air defense is a new lancet, from which it has become even more difficult to hide and hide and which flies deep into enemy lines. 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