Through the mayors executive director if the building had to be more units or through legislation. What about light and air, is that still a requirement thats maintained . There are so, through the supervisor chius legislation, again, you would have to meet minimum certain life safety requirements of the Building Code or certain aloe questionvctionv antsies. I cant speak to the exact nature of those equivalencies since i do not administer the Building Code ~. I would leave that to my colleague, mr. Duffy. Oh, come on, were waiting. Mr. Teague, theres a difference between a dwelling unit and a bedroom, is that right . There is. But the key difference is the kitchen. Right. When you have, you know, gas running to an oven and a stove, that in and of itself and again, mr. Duffy can maybe speak to that in more detail to the Building Code that is really the key difference. Once you establish that kitchen and that stove, you are essentially establishing a second dwelling unit. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Okay. Seeing none, then we will take rebuttal. Starting with the appellant. Thank you. On the last point the kitchen versus the bedroom, if the applicant wants to apply for a permit that removes solely the kitchen and leaves the bedroom, i think that would be a good solution, a good resolution to this dispute. As it stand right now, the permit applicant is coming to the department of building inspection with unclean hands. He is coming denying that the he knew the tenants were living there. I have a statement from prior tenants who say they occupied that unit with full knowledge of mr. Santiago. I have an email from the tenant saying they vacated the bedroom on the bottom saying im leaving the downstairs inlaw unit. Mr. Santiago replies back, im so sorry youre leaving. It is simply not true he depth know there was a tenant in that downstairs room. That is not directly on point to the permit, but if this permit issues, he will essentially be abusing the permit process in order to remove a tenant. I would ask that the board not allow him to do that through the department of building inspection. The mov gives him the option to attempt to legalize the current use. And if he wants to come back to the department of building inspection and be honest with what is happening in this situation and he wants to simply remove the kitchen and allow mr. Fisher to remain in this unit. I think that would be a good resolution. I would ask the board to not sank the behavior of mr. Santiago in this case. I dont understand why the removal of that room equates to [speaker not understood] the ten analyst. Why cant he share a bedroom its a four bedroom house plus this [speaker not understood]. If his bedrooms move, he has four bedrooms. I guess he could live in the living room, but i dont think thats allowed. I dont see why he should be forced to do that. As you heard previously from our department, inspector duffy as well as the planning, the ceiling height minimum requirement is still maintained even under supervisor chius legislation. So, it doesnt, according to whats measured here and presented, its a 71, 7 foot 1. The minimum is 76. So, at which point no matter if you remove the stove, its still noncompliant for [multiple voices] i mean, so, and were here basically maybe i misunderstood the prior comments about the kitchen versus the bedroom. Most of the complaint was with the kitchen. Bedroom height is different than the kitchen heights . I dont know. Maybe i can direct that to building. I suggest we maybe finish with rebuttal and then theyll have a chance to answer that question. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Any further questions . Thank you. Mr. Santiago, you have rebuttal as well, three minutes. I think the appellant is still insisting that were trying to do an illegal eviction, when in fact were not evicting [speaker not understood]. And also the room that hes using now will stay there. Its in the plan. But its a storage room. So, if he uses as a bedroom, pitch ends. Hes using at his own risk. The room l itself will remain in place. Its in the plans. [speaker not understood] the garage walls and the fire rated door to comply with the violation of this. Thats why the [speaker not understood] Building Department wants us to do. So, were just following the directive of the Building Department. Can i ask you a question . Are you finished . Sure. So, mr. Santiago, once the notice of violation has been abated, essentially the kitchen has been removed, you dorethction have a problem with the tenant to stay wherever in the building. That i dont r. Thank you very much. You wouldnt have a problem if the check you receive on a monthly basis comes from mr. Fisher; is that correct . Yes. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Duffy . Just commissioner honda had a question. Were you guys aware of the height . The height difference and the difference from the bedroom and the kitchen, how tall . 71 . I saw the plan after you asked the question. [speaker not understood] it showed them at 8 feet in the kitchen, 7 foot in the laundry and 7 foot 1 in the storage, proposed storage. Its kind of inconsequential the landlord is willing to have him stay on. Im fine with that. Yes