For me. No further questions. Judge patricia ladies, were gonna retire to deliberate. Thank you. Sonia this courtroom is now in recess. Announcer hot bench continues in a moment. Closed caption is provided by. Boost the power of your shower. Zest fruitboost, wow the first shower gel thats two times concentrated for a fruity boost of vitaminc rich lather. Fresh. Fruity. Zestfully clean. Abdominal pain . Bloating . You may have ibs. Ask your doctor if nonprescription ibgard is right for you. Ibgard calms the angry gut. Announcer three judges. Three opinions. One verdict. Fios is not cable. Were wired differently. We guarantee to make switching easier. Well show up on time. Youre right on time. As promised, to install fios and set up the wifi that janet, jamie, jenny, jemma and jasmine need on their birthday. Thank you. For all their new devices. You cant break me. You want a piece of cake . Per month online. Hurry, our best offer ever ends soon. Judge patricia well, it was clear from the inception. I mean, there was an agreement. She agreed to pay 1,200. And the part about the forgiveness, which she had forgiven it because of the damages. Clearly, she goes and gives her 200 in december. So the complainant is inde judge larry look, the cars operational and in the defendants possession. And now she wants to come in and say, well, with getting work and the plaintiff relieved me from the obligation. Judge tanya i asked. I tried very hard. I could not get one reason why i shouldnt rule in favor of the plaintiff. Judge larry no. Judge tanya and thats what im gonna do. Judge larry 1,100 to the plaintiff. And the plaintiff signs title. Judge patricia absolutely. Judge tanya there you go. Judge larry agreed . Judge patricia agreed. Judge tanya yes, indeed. Is again in session. Judge patricia ms. Walker, im gonna hand you this document, which is the title. It does have the mileage on it, 155,000plus. I only need you to fill out where i put the xs, which is to sign your name followed by printing your name. Ive already dated it. The balance well fill out after. Please, give this over to her, sonia. Thank you. So, sign at the x and then print following it. Okay, now, sonia, you can give it over to ms. Brown. Merry christmas. Thank you. Judge patricia in her gratitude to you, shes giving you the car. Merry christmas. You owe her 1,100. Judgment in your favor, 1,100. Sonia this courtroom is now in recess. Announcer hot bench continues in a moment. She did me like [indistinct] all people. And i didnt do anything but help her. Im just dealing with craziness, madness, people. You live and you learn. Oh, we dont have a friendship. She is not worthy she is not worthy of my friendship. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com captions paid for by Cbs Television distribution judge larry my mother kicked me out. I had told him, i cant support anything. Announcer . Finally go too far . Judge larry have you ever given your mother any money . I dont have any proof. Judge tanya blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Announcer hot bench. Judge tanya acker. Judge larry bakman. Judge patricia dimango. Three judges. Three opinions. One verdict. Judge patricia weve reached our decision. Announcer in a court of law, marie nerys is suing her son, 25yearold kory hanson, for unpaid room and board, Car Insurance costs and gas money. Judge patricia all right, everyone, thank you so much. Please be seated. Sonia your honor, this is case number 128, nerys vs. Hanson. Judge patricia thank you, sonia. Ms. Nerys, you are his mother. I am. Judge patricia hes one of, what, four children . Yes. Judge patricia you say that he was living with his brother. There was a problem. He asked you t you drove 400 miles round trip to get him. Youre charging him 150 for the gas. He said he would pay it. Correct. Judge patricia when he moved in with you, you said, you could stay here. But its gonna cost you 80 a week. You said, and ill let you watch the cable and use the wifi. But thats gonna cost you 100 a month. Then you said, you can borrow the car. But thats gonna cost you 100 a month for your insurance. And you said, and you get no food. You buy your own food because i cant afford the food. I use food stamps. And you have a younger, ill brother who i have judge patricia so, after all of this, youre saying that he owes you 4,180 and has not paid you anything. You say youre sick also you have diabetes; you have immune deficiency issues and that you never agreed to pay for anything. You say, finally, she threw you out. She put all of your property on the front lawn. And she cares more about your younger and more ill brother than she does about you. You owe nothing. Do you work . How old are you . 25. Judge patricia yo judge patricia when you came from your brothers home, your other brothers home, to move in with your mother, did you have a job when you got to your moms house . Yeah. I was in retail in fred meyer. Judge patricia and how much were you making . About 10 an hour. Judge patricia okay. Now, i ask those questions because i wanted to know whether or not you had an expectation that hed be able to pay you for these items and because it is quite a list of what he would have to lay out for you at the end of a month. How did you come to this agreement . He says there was no agreement, that you were letting him stay there. And everything momson kind of thing. And youre saying, no way. The way it all worked out was that he had called me to tell me that he couldnt live any longer with my older son, who has a boyfriend, and if he can come and live with me. And at the same time, he would be helping me out because i do have a son who has Chronic Health issues. And hes under constant care. So he was gonna help out with that. Judge patricia and give you all this money. I tell him it was going to be 80 a week because it was gonna help for the utilities and everything. Judge patricia what wasnt because hes paying for wifi and cable, 100 a month. By the way, what was your wifi and cable bill before he came . Maybe 20. Judge patricia and then it went up to 100 . Can i see proof of that, please . I dont know if i brought that. The reason being for that is he was wanting the wifi because he watches netflix, and he watches different things. So he says, mom, i can pay an extra 50 a month if you will increase the wifi. And i was like judge patricia did you say that to your mother . No. Yes, he did, because i would have never done it. We never had the cable because i couldnt afford it. Judge patricia and you say you never agreed to pay any cable. What was she using before you got there . I believe it was the antenna. But she had wifi in the first place because my little brother needs it for his school. Judge patricia so the other thing you have is you said he wanted to borrow your car. When you say, borrow the car, take it once in a while or just take it and make it his . For the nine months he was there, he only didnt drive it for a week and a half. Judge patricia is that accurate . It was probably more than that. Judge patricia so did you agree you were gonna give her some money for the insurance on that . No. When i was she had told me that i can use the pickup truck because her exhusband, or my Little Brothers father, was the one that was making the payments for the vehicle and that i wouldnt have to even worry about it. Judge patricia paying for the vehicle is different than covering your insurance. She said you needed to pay Car Insurance. Do you have proof that your insurance went up 100 a month because he was on the plan . I do have proof. Judge patricia so that you have proof of. Lets bring that up. I never put him on the claim for it. But i just put the proof of how much i pay for the Car Insurance every month. And he told me that he would pay for it because he. Because i think you got a little business going. I dont have any other children at home. Its just that. Just my youngest son. Judge patricia judge acker. Judge tanya youre not well, mr. Hanson. You said. You mentioned in your answer that you have your own issues. Mmhmm. Judge tanya so, since you put that out there, to whatever extent youre comfortable explaining them, id like you to tell me what they are. Im a type 1 diabetic. So ive been that for 15 or since i was 15, so about 10 years. Judge tanya do you take insulin on a regular basis . I do, four shots a day. Judge tanya four shots a day . Uhhuh. Judge tanya wow. I have diabetic neuropathy from my knees down. Judge tanya youve got nerve and sometimes numbness. Okay. Also gastroparesis, which is severe stomach issues. Also, i have an autoimmune deficiency where my immune system likes to attack my body. Judge tanya yeah. And so it likes to attack my eyes a lot. So i have chronic eye conditions that actually cause me to lose work and have to use steroid eye drops. Judge tanya roughly, tell me what your monthly income is. After taxes, i make around, like, 600 every two weeks. Judge tanya so 1,200 a month. After taxes. Judge tanya thank you. I just started about a month ago. Judge tanya every litigant, when they come to court and bring a case, has a burden a mother suing a son, there are some expectations. Theres some presumptions of what mothers do right. Judge tanya for sons. You got a big burden with me because the burden of proving that this man, your son, who is sick and who makes about 1,200 a month, the burdens on you to demonstrate that you had a reasonable expectation of repayment. Mothers tend to do things for their children exactly. Judge tanya especially when their children are sick or not making that much money. So for you to be bringing a claim for 4,000 against your son, whos got a list of Chronic Health issues, who brings home about 1,200 a month, you got a big burden with me. So well, i am a single mom with my younger son. Yes, kory does have all those issues. Judge tanya no, no, no, no. I need some evidence that when you gave him this money, it was a loan. He said, mom, i will pay you back, and that you had a reasonable expectation of repayment. I didnt judge tanya youve got a very heavy burden. So i need some evidence that this was a loan. I dont see it. I see a mom who was looking im not going to monetize your relationship, nor am i gonna put a dollar value on everything that a parent does for a kid. So prove your case. Okay. So our verbal agreement was everything from the 80 to a week. And i make less money than kory does. So i had told him before he moved in, kory, i cant support anything. And hes done this before in the past when he lived with me and my husband. He did the same thing. And he did it for three months. Judge tanya what same . He got sick, and he needed to come home, and he needed some help . No. He was coming because he wanted to be able judge tanya do you have anything to memorialize, written evidence that hed made this verbal agreement with you . Well, i have these here. This is a statement from my exhusb well, from my husband, excuse me. Judge tanya im not gonna read your exhusbands statement. Thats hearsay. Do you have a statement from the defendant . Those are Text Messages that i had gotten off and, uh judge tanya these Text Messages are between you and your son. Me and kory. Judge tanya you said you would pay for the gas round trip from my house to tacoma. You said youd help pay extra every check to pay for the insurance. And i havent even included the food you ate and never put back. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. His response is, so still how much . Thats not him saying, i agree to it. The Text Messages are you saying to him the same things that you said to me. You know, an agreement is not one way. Do you have anything from him to memorialize an agreement . You mean like a contract . Judge tanya theres nothing in these messages to suggest that he agreed or hes assenting to the fact that this was a loan. Judge larry ms. Nerys, how much do you make per month . Because anybody on food stamps has to qualify. Right. Judge larry and theyre below the poverty level, basically. I probably bring home from work about, maybe, 700 a month. Judge larry you have a sick child. Mmhmm. Judge larry how olds that boy . Fifteen. Judge larry what kind of food bill, what special food needs, does your minor son have . He has to be on a highprotein diet because hes been losing a lot of weight. And, um [ sniffles ] he even has to go to ohsu. Judge larry which is what . Doernbecher childrens hospital. Just about a 1 2 hour, 40 minutes ago i got a call because he has to go see an autonomic neurologist specialist. So the money for food, i even told kory, im spending about 600 extra on food. And youre eating it all. Judge larry food bill is 600 a month . At least, sometimes more. Judge larry i mean, where of entitlement come from . I didnt have a sense of entitlement. Judge larry really . Well, have you ever given your mother any money to help her out . I have. Judge larry really . So show me proof of what you helped your mother out with. I dont have any proof. Judge larry nothing . How long did you live with your mother, mr. Hansen . Uh, roughly around nine months. Judge larry ballpark for me how much money you gave her in the ninemonth period of time you were living under her roof and driving her car. I really cant say because i didnt keep it judge larry cant be a ballpark . No, i cant. Judge larry heres what i see in your answer. On april 18, 2016, i came home to my stuff outside on the lawn. My mother kicked me out. I had nowhere to go. She even took my xbox. Its no surprise which way im leaning. I look at you as someone who took advantage of your mother. And i look at her as someone whos trying to throw you a lifeline. I do have some questions. Ive gothe in this case. You claim that your son owes you 2,500. You are seeking the 1,680, the difference between the 2,500 and the 4,180 in our paperwork, for past rent, food, utilities in 2010. I cant give you 2010. Youre time barred. Theres a statute of limitations. Okay. Judge larry so you are not time barred on the 2,500. With that said, i have no further questions. Judge patricia were gonna announcer hot bench continues in a moment. And later today. Judge patricia because i believe your answer here is, i owe her nothing. Thats not sitting well with me. Makes sense. Judge patricia oh, good. Judge tanya he didnt have announcer closed caption is provided by. Announcer three judges. Three opinions. One verdict. Kory hanson owes for room and board, Car Insurance and gas money. Judge larry i view it as a 25yearold kid whos still living, if not mooching, off his mother, who can ill afford to carry him judge patricia im gonna tell you my view, any woman who comes in suing her son for this kind of, 150, 80, 100, is the kind of person who was expecting payment from this kid, even if it was just rent and cable. Judge tanya i think that she was expecting something. That expectation was not specific enough. And i dont think that there was a meeting of the minds as to a specific obligation that he had toward her. Judge patricia there isnt. Because judge tanya does he have a moral obligation . Absolutely. Judge patricia i feel like if you look at the big picture, morally and familywise, there was something going on, that they would have paid. But im not convinced about any amount of anything, to be honest with you. Judge larry well, i i buy into her testimony. I buy into her allegations. For 2,500 for judge tanya i cant. Judge patricia cant do it. I dont doubt that there was money owed. But i dont have an amount that i can live comfortably with by preponderance. Judge larry i dissent, then. Judge patricia i mean, i want to do it, too. But i cant. Judge tanya yeah. Judge patricia are we ready . Sonia remain seated. Come to order. This courtroom is again in session. Judge patricia were not a unanimous court. Judge bakman dissents from this. He would have given you some money. Judge acker and i are not so sure that there was a clear agreement here. I think you were hoping hed give you money. You were giving him an idea of what you needed. But i think that hes fallen short of whaur of what this son would do. This is a court of law. We cannot award you the money youre asking for. Were gonna dismiss your complaint. And, sir, i get that you have illnesses. I get that you have things. But there are plenty of people far more ill than you are who pay their own way, who take care of themselves, who offer help to their family. You dont seem to be one of them. Sonia and this courtroom is now in recess. Truthfully, i find the whole thing is ridiculous. I would have never allowed anybody to come to my home, even if its my kids. For taking care of them . Its immature. Kory and i had a verbal agreement. Familys family. Like, you cant get another family. Announcer and now the next case. Sonia case number 141 on calendar, reynolds vs. Moore, please step forward. Announcer matrice reynolds is suing her exboyfriend, leroy moore, for the return of a Security Deposit. Judge tanya so the two of you were in a relationship at one point. You were living together. There was a Security Deposit paid on the apartment. The landlord refunded that Security Deposit for some administrative reason. Yes. Judge tanya and the expectation was that that Security Deposit was going to be repaid back into the Landlords Bank account. Yes. Judge tanya but then theres a physical altercation between you two. You split up. You, sir, move out. Yes. Judge tanya you stay in the apartment. Yes. Judge tanya the landlord says, its time to repay the Security Deposit. But he ran off with the check. So youre now suing him for 750. He is done with this apartment. And he is done with you. He owes you zero. Do i have your defense right, sir . Yes. Judge tanya when were the two of you living together in this apartment . 2014. Judge tanya who paid the Security Deposit . I did. Judge tanya give me some proof. Here is the receipts. Judge tanya he says he paid it. Did you pay it, sir . I got the money from my mom to pay it. Yes, um, me and her mom went half. Her mom gave i gave 250. Her mom gave the rest. Announcer hot bench continues in a moment. Judge tanyayo he doesnt live there anymore. 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