A loving mom murdered by the foster daughter shed opened her home to. What no one could understand was why. Something else had to have been at play here. Indeed, this case was about to get a lot more complicated. Stories of a diabolical plot brewing behind closed doors. This is really just betrayal on top of betrayal, on top of betrayal, isnt it . And an obsession that would not be denied. It was like i want this. This is how im going to get it. Im lester holt. And this is dateline. Heres josh mankowitz with deadly betrayal. There comes a time in most cops careers when they see something so horrific, theyll do just about anything to forget it. Even though deep down, they know they never will. For officer randy mullinex that moment came in november, 2012, on a call to chagrin drive in Willoughby Hills, ohio. Have you ever had a scene like this before . Never. Ive never seen a crime scene like that, and i hope i never have to again. It was bad. Finding out what happened that night on chagrin drive and why would ultimately lead investigators on a journey that would reveal accusations of a diabolical murder plot and a series of betrayals that tore apart an american family. That journey would begin when this house of horrors was still the loving home of lisa and kevin. A couple whose friends describe as destined to be together from the moment they met. I remember her talking about him, and she had nothing but great things to say. Lisas Close Friends kalene and carl lessman were the unofficial chaperones of lisa and kevins first date. They come in, and he is fabulous. We got along right away. I mean, he fit right in, seriously. I can totally see why she was drawn to him. You really can. Kevin was just as drawn to lisa, according to her sister chris ann sutton. I remember kevin telling me he met somebody and her names lisa and i think i really like her. She liked to have fun just like kevin, very family oriented. And good for him . Very good for him. Both kevin and lisa had been married before. And both had children. Lisa had megan. Kevin had cody. Kevin was always good with children. Linda cover is a family friend whos known kevin all his life. Good father. Good father. Dedicated father . Absolutely, absolutely. Kevin was a jack of many trades. A truck driver, a school bus driver, an emergency medical technician. Lisa dedicated her life to social work, helping and caring for sexually abused kids. Kalene was one of lisas coworkers. She just wanted to help people. We work in a sex abuse unit, and thats a very difficult subject that a lot of people cant deal with, but she really prided herself on being able to help these families and being able to make a difference. Everyone admired lisas selflessness, her friend carrie ward also worked with lisa. She took in foster kids while she was a single parent and was raising her own daughter by herself. That feels like sort of going the extra mile and then some. She did. She was always there to help anybody that needed. Admirable. Yes, very much so. One year after kevin and lisa met, they married. The wedding itself, i mean, was fabulous. The reception was great. Did you think this marriage was going to be it for kevin . Oh, absolutely, absolutely. There was no question in my mind. A year and a half later, lisa and kevin announced the arrival of a baby of their own, hailey. Lisa was on top of the world. Megan she loved like crazy, of course. But she really wanted another child. But lisa felt she had more to give. Two yearte she decided to invite 16yearold fo c zunich into her home and to make sabrina part of the family. I met sabrina almost immediately when she came to the house. I remember her saying i finally have a family. Everything was going really well. She fit right into the family. Lisa, i mean, couldnt talk highly enough about her. 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Youre going to have to take a deep breath. I cannot understand you. My moms going to die. First responding officer randy mullinex arrived at the knoefel home and found megan frantic at the front door. Shes waving her hands, you need to hurry, hurry. Mullinex learned Kevin Knoefel was away on business leaving lisa, megan, hailey and their foster daughter sabrina at home. Worstcase scenario was going through my head. What am i going to see . How bad is this going to be . It was far worse than he could have imagined. Out of the master bedroom came the knoefels 18yearold foster daughter sabrina holding a knife. It looked like she literally showered in blood. Mullinex ordered sabrina to the ground where she was cuffed. He then went to the bedroom where he found lisa knoefel on the floor. I could barely even see flesh color. There was that much blood on her. I knew there was nothing i can do. The coroner would later determine lisa had been stabbed and cut at least 178 times. Sabrinas weapon was a 15inch bread knife. The blade was actually bent. I just started shaking my head because i couldnt it takes a lot to bend a knife blade. With Sabrina Zunich now booked and in the lockup, detective Ron Parmertor began the investigation. This wasnt a case where you had to wonder who was responsible. Thats correct. We knew right away it was the foster daughter. This looked like a case that could be shut as quickly as it opened. But if that were true, we wouldnt be telling you the story. This turned out to be one of the most unusual cases weve come across. Police would end up investigating not just who but why with answers as stunning as they were disturbing. As dawn broke that cold november morning, the detective began with his perpetrator, Sabrina Zunich. I first noticed she was a very small girl, very frail girl. Sabrina started describing the moments leading up to the murder. She had had a migraine, she said. While everyone else slept, she walked into the knoefels bath to get some ibuprofen, and that, she said, is where her memory went blank. You didnt think anybody could stab somebody that many times and not remember any part of it. No, i mean i tried all different ways for her to come out and tell me what really happened and she was not giving it up. And then sabrina asked for an attorney, bringing parmertors interrogations to an abrupt and frustrating halt. You thought whatever else were going to get, its not going to come from her. Exactly. So parmertor consulted those who arguably knew this teenaged ward of the state better than anyone, sabrinas social workers. She had some issues with her family growing up. Her grandma took custody of her about the age of 3. Case manager nicole core said sabrina struggled with having been abandoned by her parents at a very early age. She ended up in the juvenile system after stealing from her grandmother to pay for drugs and alcohol. She worked a lot in counseling, how to cope and how to manage with everything she was going through. Eventually, nicole helped place sabrina into the knoefel home. She just wanted to be a part of something, a part of a family. I know thats what she wanted more than anything. So when she was told about being placed with the knoefels, she was ecstatic. It turned out the knoefels loving care was just what she needed. She was going to class. Getting good grades. I think sabrina really was thriving in their home. Which made the news that it was sabrina who had brutally stabbed lisa all the more baffling. I still cant see the sabrina that i know being violent towards anyone, let alone what she did. Something else had to have been at play here. Detective Ron Parmertor was thinking the same way. He wanted to talk to kevin about what that Something Else might be, but he held off. I was giving him his space because i thought he needed time to deal with the tragic death of his wife. According to his sister, chris ann, kevin was an emotional wreck when he heard what happened. Im sure that there was some guilt because he worked nights, and he wasnt home. Hes like, i never thought this would happen. Did you think he had anything to do with this . No. And you could definitively prove that kevin wasnt even in the house at the time. Absolutely. Kevin was on the ohiomichigan border at the time. Still, parmertor felt kevin might hold the key to solving the riddle of this case. Why keep going . You got your suspect and shes got the weapon in her hand. Just doing my job as a detective. I was trying to find out why. It was the one central question that continued to plague detective parmertor and drive him forward. Youre crossing your fingers and thinking we really need a break. Yes. And then one day it arrives . One day sabrina decides that she wants to tell us what happened. And the story sabrina ultimately told was far more complicated and twisted than anyone could have imagined. Coming up, investigators hear stories about tensions in the knoefels seemingly happy home. Triggered by sabrinas odd behavior. It made lisa uncomfortable. Lisa wasnt happy with it, no. Though sabrina says she wasnt the cause of problems in the house but the victim. News of lisa knoefels bloody murder cut through Willoughby Hills, ohio, like a blistering winter wind. I was shocked. Lisa was a nice person. She was a good mom. She was a good wife. For someone of that much beauty and that much giving of herself to just be taken from us like that, its just just too much. Finding out that the foster daughter lisa welcomed into her home ended up committing lisas murder only added to the collective pain and suffering. Betrayal is the perfect word for what happened. I mean, somebody hurting her that she had taken in. I just cant even imagine what she must have been going through. As detective Ron Parmertor worked the case, he learned there had been growing tension within the knoefel home right before the murder. And the source of that tension was sabrina. She got along great with kevin and she did not get along well at all with lisa. Parmertor discovered lisa had become frustrated with sabrinas behavior toward kevin. She was fascinated with kevin. She seemed a little vivacious in my eyes. Flirty. Uhhuh. Like flaunting herself. And parmertor learned from texts on lisas cell phone that sabrinas flirty behavior had begun to take its toll on lisa and kevins marriage. Sabrina was demanding kevins time and kevin was making himself available, too available as far as lisa was concerned. You have one actual text from lisa to kevin in which shes saying youre getting too close to sabrina. Yes. In fact, lisa wrote, cut the damn cord. Spending too much time with her and less with your real family. Thanks a lot. Lisa also became concerned she a lwasnt happy with it, no. Things that everybody agrees onn fascinated with hailey. She was. I think she was infatuated with the whole family, and she wanted to be biologically in that family. Parmentor learned that just weeks before the murder, tension between lisa and sabrina had ths under the knoefel roof, sabrina was told it was time to pack up and get out. Got very upset, knew that lisa was the one initiating that action and what, snapped . Yes. But right now six months aft murder, the investigation took. Parmertor learned sabrina was ready to talk. She starts temill down her f. Sabrina told dateline the same story she told police. The story of a young girl bouncing through the foster care system, always dreaming of a better life. I wanted a new beginning to and to put all the past behind me. I wanted that that picket white fence, the dinner on the table with siblings and, you know, something i never had. I wanted that structure of a family. So when the knoefels opened their door to sabrina, it was a dream come true. My First Impression of kevin was caring father, somebody that was willing to. You know, get to know me and want to know me. And then there was lisa. My relationship with lisa, it was at first good. We would all spend time together. We would go swimming in the backyard. I felt a part of the family. Then sabrina confirmed what parmertor had already heard. The good times quickly came to an end when sabrina and lisa started arguing. According to sabrina, lisa began thinking of her as more foster than daughter. And sabrina didnt like that. I felt like the outsider. I felt kind of abandoned in a certain type of way and not accepted. Sabrina admitted her close relationship with both kevin and hailey had become a major source of friction with lisa. She doesnt like the fact of how im acting with hailey and wouldnt let hailey come around me. Not even give me a hug at night. It really it hurt me. And then came the moment when sabrina said lisa told her it was time to go. She was very blunt about it. And she was like, im sorry, but i dont want you here anymore. My life is shattering before me. The betrayal, the abandonment, all that came to surface. Two weeks later, sabrina says she quietly carefully walked into lisas darkened bedroom, a knife in her hand. I was in the room for a good 10, 15 minutes. It was a constant battle in my head. Do it, dont do it. Just do it. In the end, it was sabrinas darker side that won out. She wakes up and she thought i was megan and it was like megan go to bed. I completely froze. And then she sits up in her bed and she was like megan and she realized it wasnt megan, and thats when i did it. I remember her shouting please stop, and i remember megan coming in and setting a hand on my shoulder and saying, please stop and i just nudged her off and told her, megan, dont. Anger triggered by a troubled teenagers feeling of abandonment leading to murder. For Ron Parmertor, sabrinas story made perfect if tragic sense. You believed sabrina . Absolutely. But sabrina was not done. What she was about to reveal would send this investigation hurtling in a completely new and alarming direction. Sabrina told detective parmertor she didnt act alone. I couldnt have done Something Like this if i didnt have an outer influence. Coming up sabrina drops a bombshell. Claiming that getting rid of lisa was actually someone elses idea, communicated in a series of bitter texts. Man, i wish she was dead or i cant stand her. She just needs to go. Your true self is never lost. Breathe deeply. You dont have to find yourself. Just let yourself in. The new atmosphere collection. Fine Home Fragrance by glade. Sc johnson, a family company. Bite into magnum double caramel. And unleash your wild side. Made with silky vanilla bean ice cream and rich belgian chocolate. Discover magnum. 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