At some point, isis is going to have a success. And what military success looks like for them is a dead american soldier. We have a dangerous tendency to under estimate the enemy and overestimate our allies in their capabilities. I see us making that exact same mistake now. We need to clearly identify who our friends are. When we give weapons and training to people who we should not trust, people who we would not let on an airplane out of our own airplanes, its inevitable, they will turn against us. I want to see leadership in washington take responsibility for communicating clearly with the american people. It is very personal. I feel like i have a responsibility as a veteran to speak up and ensure that there is a voice. That was iraq war veteran clay hanna in his own words. 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Webb is a former marine and served in vietnam where he won a navy cross for extraordinary heroism as well as a silver star, pro bronze stars and two purple hearts. In the 80s he served in the Reagan Administration as an assistant secretary of defense and secretary of the navy. In 2006, he switched partied and was elected as a democratic senator from virginia and served one term before opting not to seek reelection. He is a successful author and screenwriter and has written eight books over the years. My wife helped him in his senate bid. I want to begin with any reaction you have to clay hanna, because how politicians use phrases like boots on the ground and politicize the issues of combat troops, that does have an impact on soldiers, doesnt it . It does. Having watched the beginning of your show, i think its fair to say right now that we are at a crossroads as a nation in terms of how we view ourselves, how we say these things to ourselves and the way that these issues are going to be resolved in the next couple of years will affect us for a very long time. Its true in domestic policy as well. When you see the arguments about economic fairness. The truth is, it depends where you sit in this country. We have the stock market that has almost tripled since march of 2009. The rich are feeling good . If you have capital, you are feeling good. Average salaries have gone down. Loans to Small Businesses have actually decreased. And we have a criminal Justice System thats embarrassing. All of the country should be focusing on that, too. In foreign policy, what you are hearing from this former sold is something that we are seeing a lot of country wide, and that is that we have not had a clear articulation of what American Foreign policy is basically since the end of the cold war. So when you are looking at places like iraq and syria, you are seeing policies that cant be clearly articulated. You are saying that the president doesnt you are saying president obama doesnt have a foreign policy. Im saying in terms of a clear doctrine, we have been lacking that for a very long time. It particularly impact the middle east. If you look at whats going on, there are two data points that are critical. The first was the decision by the Bush Administration to invade and occupy iraq, which empowered iran and unleashed all the sectarian violence. And then it was what i thought was a strategic the inadvisable strategy of the arab spring. What has happened in libya as well as syria is a result. The beginning of the arab spring was in some ways egypt. Was that a mistake . Was the president getting involved the beginning of the mistake that then turned to libya that turned to syria . I think what you were seeing in egypt and i was talking about it when it began was the first rule of wing walking is make sure you have a clear grasp on where you are going before you leave where you are. This was accentuated in libya. I spoke very strongly against the notion that a president could unilaterally conduct military operations in an area where we had no treaties at work, no americans under attack or at risk. And you take a look at the end result of libya, an enormous number of weapons unaccounted for which are probably in syria. And can you get to the tripoli airport today . Now, if you take a look at syria, which is syria and parts of iraq, which is what the former soldier was talking about, we now have a situation where we are asking these Freedom Fighters or whatever you want to call them who were going after assad to help us go after isis. Its not clear they are going to do that. The elements that are fighting there are very fluid in terms of the people who declare their alliances. I would be willing to bet that we have people at the top of isis who actually have been trained by americans at some point. Let me move to your political poe potential political am decisi ambitions. Im not looking at that. What im trying to do is the same thing that i did when i was thinking about running for the senate. That is to identify the issues that America Needs to focus on in order to regain the trust of the american people. If you look at these polls that you were showing, i think the people are way ahead of their leaders. They know we have these problems that were at a crossroads. They are very disappointed in fact that the pop leaders in both parties have not been able to come together for the good of the country to work to solve them. You are going to be compared to Hillary Clinton here. Whats the contrast that you think is fairest between you and Hillary Clinton . I really dont i will let leave that to other people. If people you describe you as running to her left, what do you say . I believe in certain principals that i put out. Whether they are to the left or to the right doesnt matter to me. I dont change what i believe. This is what did i when i ran for the senate. And im very concerned about issues of economic fairness, social justice. We worked on criminal Justice Reform eight years ago. We put 2 1 2 years of hearings in it in the senate. I dont know whether thats to the left or right. Its a leadership issue. Is she qualified . Do you think shes qualified to be president . We led on this pivot to asia which people talked about for the obama administration. We began that two years before obama was elected. Ive been very strong on different ways to deal with foreign policy. You are smiling. You dont want to talk about Hillary Clinton . I dont think its for me to talk about Hillary Clinton. I enjoyed working with her when i was in the senate. This is for me i dont know what shes going to do if she runs, what she would run on. Im just very concerned about these issues for the country. Quickly, a few key issues. Gay marriage, you were for civil unions but not for legalized gay marriage. Have you changed . I took tough stands in 06. There was a gay marriage amendment on the ballot in virginia. I have a lot of family ties in the southwest. I oppose that. Im really comfortable with where the evolution has you are not ready legal in some places but not in others . I think this has been a good tli thing for the country. Im going to leave it there. We will watch. 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Its also indisputable that millions of americans dont yet feel enough of the benefits of a growing economy where it matters most. Thats in their own lives. That was president obama this week touting his administrati administrations policies and those of his fellow democrats on the ballot in november. Lets do a little reality check. While the Unemployment Rate has been dropping, as we saw with fridays jobs reports there are Many Americans that arent feeling it. Why . Because the road to recovery is taking different routes. That could mean trouble for democrats in november. Let me show you another graphic and a map. Along interstates running north to south, the communities close to the highways are in the economic fast lane. The mostly urban areas that do favor democrats where economies are thriving and people are heading back into the job market at a rapid pace, more rapidly than in Rural America farther away from the interstates. Look here in washington, d. C. Along the i 95 corridor. The unemployment raise dropped nearly 2 points and 35,000 more people felt encouraged enough to go into the job market. 150 miles to the southeast in virginia, the Unemployment Rate drops less than a point and that was because nearly 1,200 fewer people are out there looking for work. Lets go to iowa, not only was there a drop in the Unemployment Rate of two points, but 4,700 more people are in the job markets. But in more rural benton county, their drop in the Unemployment Rate of nearly two points wasnt good news because nearly 1,000 people stopped looking for jobs in that county. Lets go west. In utah, along i15 the Unemployment Rate dropped three points in Salt Lake County and 38,000 people joined the job county. But two hours west, that drop in the Unemployment Rate of nearly three points was because fewer people stopped looking for work. This uneven economic recovery is the reason why democrats up for reelection this year think they cant run on the president s economic message because their voters arent seeing the economy bounce back as quickly as those areas along the i5 corridors. Bottom line is that this could be another reason why republicans feel so confident in retaking the senate this fall. Of course, should they be that confide confident . I have numbers in three big confident . I have numbers in three big states coming up after csome cool things to pass onto iyour kids your super heroes. States coming up after your fashion sense. Your love of reading. Your uncanny ability to find parking spots. Your fear of people who are different . Not so much, the more you know. Welcome back. We have new polls to chew over. North carolina, alaska new numbers in North Carolina. Hagan up. About where republicans are concerned where the race is slipping away. Look at iowa. Ernst a narrow margin of error type of lead. If she wins, first woman ever elected to congress from the state of iowa. But here is the speed bump. Look at this. Kansas, pat roberts the republican not even cracking 40 . Greg orman the independent up ten points. This is the shocker. This is the speed bump to the republican road. We know you love your speed bumps. We hate it when it goes the way it is supposed to go. This is surprising. Its surprising hes an independent. You see pat roberts saying hes not really an independent. Who are you . Who were you caucus with . Listen to his answer. So you can envision switching which party you would work with once you were there . Sure. And ultimately, again, this is about solving problems. This is about the voters of kansas saying, the status quo doesnt work anymore. There you go. Its classic. He is an outsider. He says hes independent. The fact that pat roberts ignored the warnings, what happened to dig luger, you ha. We know kansas has other issues. Listen to this. Orman 20 are brown back voters. Roberts problems arent brown back problems. The message that a smart politician should take up, its about what works. Forget about ideology. George w. Bush was ideological going into iraq. Obama was ideological coming out of iraq. There are people that will debate that. The question is, what works . Thats a strong message. Republicans should be concerned. Your numbers in North Carolina should cause concern. I will say even, if we are only up, we the Republican Party only up by two points in iowa with such a weak democratic candidate, this is far from over. All these people saying republicans are going to take the majority, i would david, here is the thing, success for the democrats is, we only lost five seats and the republicans blew one in kansas. Thats not a great message. When you look at the structure of the year with the exposure democrats have in states that rom knney carried. Its brown versus i hate to be negative about the Republican Party. But if the Republican Party doesnt win in 2014, 2016 is bleak. Top Party Leaders have been Reince Priebus said not getting the senate say loss for the Republican Party. I had a little fun. I had a lot of fun. I want to share a moment of fun ahead. Yesterday for nine innings here it is. If you went to bed at a normal time last night, you probably missed the 18 inning epic marry th the marathon. I got to watch the first half. I made it through ten innings. I got to cheer on the nationals with my family. Take a listen. Please welcome chuck todd of nbc news and his family. One, two, three. Washington nationals, play ball. [ applause ] im sorry. I had to share it because im so cool. My son and my daughter who was the person in the outfit . Who cares. Leave screech alone. One final note. I would like to thank all of those who worked so hard to bilgd t build the new set in two weeks. It really does look good. Great. Like home. We are moving in. Look at these cool lights. We have all sorts of things. I have to do more cleaning. Dusting, i have to get fatheath dusts. Everybody grab a duster. Thats it for today. We will be back next week because if its sunday, its meet the press. What he was trying to do was protect his family. Thats all he ever wanted to do. A quiet family night at home shattered by intruders. The gun was like right here. A devoted father and husband dead. Just a saying, they killed him. Someone murdered her husband but left her alive. And that left police suspicious. Was it possible she was involved in her husbands murder. The indicators are in cases like this that its the spouse, not a random act. But why would she kill a man she obviously loved . They never fought. They were always very happy. This was a Family Affair all right, but it was another family that was keeping secrets. You ever seen anything like that before . No. One father who fought to save his son. Another who used his son to save himself. Hes a monster. Tonight a mystery that changed two families forever. I