Qaeda. But we cant kill our way out of this mess. The candidates face off at the final president ial debate. I know you havent been in a position to actually execute Foreign Policy. But every time youve offered an opinion, youve been wrong. Our navy is smaller now than any time since 1917. We also have fewer horses and bayonets. Governor romney appeared president ial. The president appeared small. Clearly if you watch this debate, the president looked like the stronger guy. There were times where it felt like we went to a Foreign Policy debate and a domestic policy debate broke out. I love teachers, but i want to get our private sector going. I think we all love teachers. California some of the worst weather in the country. A couple tornados near the sacramento area. I stepped out on my back porch and there kfs. Apple is expected to take the wraps off a smaller version of the ipad today, half the size of the regular ipad. And the giants have won the pennant. These guys just never quit. A beluga whale who Scientists Say was trying to mimic a human voice. Someone got into my house. A 10yearold stops a burglary inside her own home. You did a very good job. Thank you. That shot says it all. The bears will get win number five on the season. Are you okay . Im good, im good. Ahh youve got to stop putting words in my mouth, sir. Let me finish. Nobody is hearing anything. Do you smoke pot with tom hanks . I did. I smoked pot with tom hanks in this movie. Im going to Talk Computers im going to live on the moon i have something very, very big concerning the president of the united states. Give us a hint. I will do that. On cbs this morning. Could cost him the election. Hes going to endorse him. Captioning funded by cbs welcome to cbs this morning. Im charlie rose in new york. Norwich city is in boca raton, florida, with Bob Schieffer. Last night the candidates met face to face for the very last time. And a cbs news instant poll shows president obama left the stage with an advantage, 53 of undeclared voters who watched the debate said the president won. 23 called governor mitt romney the winner. While 24 called it a tie. Those voters also said mr. Obama would do a better job on terrorism and National Security. The margin was nearly 21. Also 71 said the president can be trusted to handle an international crisis. 49 said that about romney. And the poll was split 50 50 on who would do a better job on u. S. Policy toward china. The two men met last night with a lot on the line. A cbs News National poll taken before the debate shows president obama leading by just two points, and that is within the margin of error, so its a statistical tie. We begin this morning with jan crawford. She is in West Palm Beach with the Romney Campaign. Jan, good morning. Reporter good morning, norah. Good morning, charlie. This was the first debate, when both candidates left the stage happy. The president hit romney hard. His supporters say he really scored some points. But romney held his own, and his team told me he more than passed the commander in chief test. I know you havent been in a position to actually execute Foreign Policy, but every time youve offered an opinion, youve been wrong. Reporter president obama attacked early and often, at times sounding almost dismissive. You mention the navy, for example. That we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military has changed. We have these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. We have ships that go under water, nuclear submarines. Reporter for much of the debate, the president was on the attack and both men often acted as if mr. Obama were the underdog. Twice romney called him out on the attacks, and instead of engaging, often pivoted to the economy. Attacking me is not an agenda. Attacking me is not talking about how were going to deal with the challenges in the middle east. America must be strong. America must lead. And for that to happen, we have to strengthen our economy here at home. You cant have 23 Million People struggling to get a job. Reporter and when the two went headtohead, romney pushed back. When youre asked whats the biggest geopolitical threat facing russface ing america, you said russia, not al qaeda. And theyre now calling to ask for their Foreign Policy back, because the cold war has been over for 20 years. Excuse me, in the same paragraph, i said and iran is the greatest National Security threat we face. Russia does continue to bat us in the u. N. Time and time again. I have clear eyes on this. Im not going to wear rose colored glasses when it comes to russia or mr. Putin and im certainly not gointo say to him ill give you more flexibility after the election. Now, romneys advisers tell me it was a strategic decision for romney to take the high road and generally not take the president s bait, even on libya, he declined to take a shot at the president. But instead framed it in the broader context of what he called the president s failed policies in the middle east. His goal going in was to sound matter of fact, confident, and knowledgeable, and not come across as heated as he did in last weeks debate. Norah and charlie . Lets talk about the debate with the man who was in the middle, Bob Schieffer, the host of face the nation. First, bob, congratulations. It was a great debate between the two candidates, where we had a full exchange of the views. What was it like being there . Its very exciting. And its also i mean, youre just sitting there and youre so close. You feel like you can well, you can, you can almost reach out and touch both of them. And you get to see the reaction, when theyre looking each other straight in the eye and both of them did that. And occasionally, they would just turn to me and look at me for a while. But, you know, i thought it came off pretty well. My objective going into this, norah, was to come away feeling that people got a better understanding of who these people were and what theyre all about. And i kind of felt like that that may have happened last night. We get to see their demeanor on camera, the way theyre looking at each other in that split screen. You get to see them up close and personal. Is there a lot of attention between these two men . Well, i dont think theyre going to be doing a lot of cookouts together with their families after the election. But i thought they handled themselves with great dignity this time around. This was spirited. The elbows were sharp. But i thought this was worthy of a debate about the presidency. And i it also gives me a greater appreciation, norah, of just how hard these problems are. You know, most of the easy problems have already been solved. Whats on the plate of the next president , whoever thats going to be, are very, very difficult things, and as you saw last night, on many of these issues, theyre fairly close on it. But you also saw, they think this election is going to be about the economy, and both did everything they could to get it over to the economy and domestic issues whenever they could. Bob, you prepared hard for this and that was evident. What surprised you about the debate last night that was unexpected for you . I was i mean, i did know this was a debate about Foreign Policy. I was a little bit surprised, you know, as i just said, about the fact that both really did want to talk about economic issues. I kind of let them go on that. They got into education at one point. They went on about that for a while. Well, you know, there are a lot of people like stan mcchrystal, used to be the commander of our forces in afghanistan, who will tell you that they think that education is the basis and the beginning of our National Security. And so i found that interesting that they both wanted to talk about that. When we let that run for a while, i tried to get them back on more specific Foreign Policy questions. But i found that quite interesting, and to me, charlie, indicative of what they think the campaign ought to be about. This is their campaign. And i thought people ought to have an opportunity to see what they thought it should be about. As important as it was, some are suggesting that despite the president having won, that the governor passed certain tests he had to pass, being president ial, not making any mistakes, and that he won in that way, and so now the crucial question is what do they do between now and election day . What do you think they have to do . Well, i mean, look, i think that both of these men are qualified to be president of the united states. These are two moral men. These are people of good values on both sides and theyre both intelligent men. Im not going to pick a president. Im going to leave that to the people to decide that. But i thought we got a good and maybe a little better sense of who each of these men was last night. I felt in that sense, i came away feeling pretty good about it. Bob, hang with us for a bit. After the debate last night, we got reaction from both running mates. First, i asked Vice President joe biden about romneys claim that the u. S. Should do more to stop Irans Nuclear ambitions. Irans more isolated today than it was when we took office. Iran had significant influence, not only in the shia world but in the sunni world. The world was split on iran. We were viewed as somehow by the rest of the world as being too unilateral. Today it is isolated. But the only thing that i heard maybe i missed something governor romney say tonight was that he would have done it sooner. When in fact, before he was i dont know what he was saying before. Governor romney in the past has been very tough of your administrations handling of the security situation in benghazi, libya, and the protection of our diplomats there. Tonight, he took a pass on that particular issue. But i do have to ask you about a piece that was in the wall street journal this morning. They reported that the president was told in his president ial Daily Briefing for more than a week after that siege that the assault grew out of a spontaneous protest and that the cia did not change that assessment until september 22nd. I read that story and i thought how is it that the contents of the president s daily brief is now in the pages of the wall street journal to help explain your administrations point of view . How could that happen . I dont know how that happened, except that i know that the head of the director of Central Intelligence said everything that the president said, that i said, that susan rice said, that was stated was exactly what the talking points the Intelligence Community was giving us and briefing us on. Lets now talk about the state of this campaign. Were just two weeks out from election day. The tone has changed a bit. You guys are now using terms like romnesia and sketchy to talk about romney and ryan. What happened to hope and change . Well, theres still a great deal of hope and change. Also talking about the fact that 41 states, the Unemployment Rate has gone down. The Housing Market is beginning to come back. Were finally turning the corner. 5,200,000 new jobs. Laying out to plan to create new jobs. But the thing is the attacks being made by our friends seem to change every day. I mean, they have gone from rattling the sabre to being doves carrying peace i dont know what they stand for. Well, romney and ryan say these are petty attacks and theyre silly word games. Are they an indication that youre worried because the polls have closed . We have a new poll out from cbs news in ohio that shows the president , and your lead has been reduced from ten points to five points. Are you worried you may lose this election . No, im not. Look, we knew this election you knew this, norah, youre one of the most you knew this election was going to tighten up. No matter who our opponent was. Its totally appropriate to point out that governor romney and congressman ryan have moved their positions drastically. They probably havent changed them internally, but they keep running away from the idea that theres not a 5 trillion tax cut. I mean, these are things that theyve been running on. This has been the staple of this republican party. Massive cuts in domestic spending. Significant increases in tax cuts for the wealthy. And now theyre saying no, no, no. Thats not who we are. I think its totally legitimate to say, then who are you . On that note, mr. Vice president , we have to go. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, norah. We also spoke with republican Vice President ial candidate paul ryan. He was also staying up late after the debate. I asked him if governor romney should have pushed harder on the libya issue. Its been a story of changing stories by the administration. We didnt want to go into all the litigation of it because what mitt romney wanted to do was lay out his vision for the country. How do you have a strong economy, which makes for a Strong National defense and strong america. But it seemed in the debate that governor romney seemed to be bending over backwards to agree with the president on multiple occasions, sort of saying he concurred with president obama. Why did he fail to draw some of the distinctions tonight . There are some things we agree with. We agree with the decision to go after Osama Bin Laden. We agree with the continuation of the bush drone policy. Where we disagree is in the president s poor handling of the iranian situation. Iran is four years closer to a nuclear weapon. The administration fought us on sanctions in congress on a bipartisan basis for years until we finally got bipartisan support to overwhelm the president s position. Now we have the sanctions in place. What we also disagreed with was on the defense policy. This trilliondollar cut in defense will devastate our defense, make us weak, project weakness abroad, and i think mitt romney did a great job of contrasting that. But on military spending, that was one of the sharpest exchanges in the debate. President obama said this is not a game of battleship. Yes, there arent as many ships, but there arent as many horses and bayonets. Thats a pretty tough attack. To compare modern american battleships and navy with bayonets i just dont understand that comparison. Look, we have to have a strong navy to keep peace and prosperity and sea lanes open. The president s if all these defense cuts go through, our navy will be smaller than it was before world war i. Thats not acceptable. And yes, the ocean hasnt shrunk. You still have to have enough ships to have a footprint that you need to keep sea lanes open, to keep our strength abroad where it needs to be. Can i ask you to talk about your position on syria. We have heard governor romney in the past say that you would work to ensure that the opposition obtains the arms they need to defeat assads tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets. Does that mean you would be willing to supply the opposition with heavy weaponry . Well, so what weve always said is that we want to work with our allies in the region. The turks, the saudis, in identifying the good allies in syria who are syrians fighting against the bashar regime i asked that, congressman forgive me. Im trying to explain to you. When he said obtain the arms they need to defeat assads tanks, helicopters and fighter jets. You need some pretty heavy weaponry to defeat tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets, correct . Through open source, we already know that they have what we call man pads. We already know that the free syrian army, that people in syria already have the kinds of weapons to do just that. Heres the problem with delaying so long. Heres the problem with going over a year and a half and not having leadership. Bad actors are joining this fight. Al qaeda is coming into syria. And what is your position on oneonone negotiations with iran . Do you see a scenario where that could ever happen . Sure. Weve always said that were willing to talk, but were not going to take off sanctions. Were not going to lessen anything. Were not going to give any kind of talk, whether theyre multilateral or bilateral as an excuse to delay sanctions. Weve got to keep pushing sanction. We have to have harder sanctions. We have to do all of the list of things that governor romney said, and if they want to talk, thats fine. But were not going to seize or put any kind of temporary hold on any kinds of sanctions as a condition of talking. No preconditions, but if they want to talk, that is perfectly fine. Congressman ryan, thank you for joining us. You bet, norah. Bob schieffer is back with us. Two weeks to go before election day. What happens in these next two weeks . Or can you even focus on that . I have no idea. I have been so zoned in on trying to get this debate going and talking the people about it. I mean, my clock kind of stopped at 10 30 last night. Have you ever seen it this tight at the end . No, this is going to be very close and its going to go right down to the wire. I mean, youve got all kinds of things. I think theres a real possibility you might see one win the popular vote and the other win the electoral vote. You could have an electoral tie, a vote tie, which means it goes onto the house of representatives next year. I mean, there is just no telling what might happen. It may all come down, as it did in 2000, to right here in florida. Its not going to be a landslide this year. Id bet money on that. Im not betting a cent on anything else. Well be together on Election Night following that. Congrats on a good debate. We turn now to bad weather out west. At least two tornados touched down in Northern California monday, causing minor damage. One of them hit north of sacramento, knocked down trees and power lines. And other structures south of sacramento, damaging some buildings. There are no reports of mitt romney hears from conservative critics after last nights debate. Some say he didnt hit president obama hard enough on libya. This morning, well talk with bill oreilly about the debate and what might happen in the next two weeks. And a kennedy in court. 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