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They were walking into. >> well, they had to know exactly what they were walking into. i was in doha. i went to this museum they've set up already which is kind of a testament to their building this world cup and i watched their bid presentation video. it was particularly produced, they spent millions on it. it went a long ways, well, some other factors to convincing the fifa committee to award the 2020 world cup to qatar. nowhere in this video is there any mention made of who is going to -- >> right, it's all these glorious computer renderings, and you think to yourself, that looks great. >> ...

They had to know exactly what they were walking into. >> well, they had to know exactly what they were walking into. i was in doha. i went to this museum they've set up already which is kind of a testament to their building this world cup and i watched their bid presentation video. it was particularly produced, they spent millions on it. it went a long ways, well, some other factors to convincing the fifa committee to award the 2020 world cup to qatar. nowhere in this video is there any mention made of who is going to -- >> right, it's all these glorious computer renderings, and you think to y...

I went to this museum they've set up already which is kind of a testament to their building this world cup and i watched their bid presentation video. it was particularly produced, they spent millions on it. it went a long ways, well, some other factors to convincing the fifa committee to award the 2020 world cup to qatar. nowhere in this video is there any mention made of who is going to -- >> right, it's all these glorious computer renderings, and you think to yourself, that looks great. >> no mention is made, and to the best of my knowledge, no one ever asks the question. qataris don't real...

Heard, there's issues with that. there's availability. there's the team to launch it. i would hope that, you know, one of the things you always want to do with equipment in the ocean is have a backup because things go wrong. so i would suspect they're right now looking for other assets that might be deployable if they need them. >> well, what about that, van, because when you were in the navy, there were other assets you used to use. what else is out there? >> well, there are a number of other vehicles and other technologies, so in terms of auvs like we've been looking at with the bluefin, the...

These numbers are so numbering. you think of $17 trillion in debt, but when it comes down to you, each of us owes $106,000. does that bring it home? >> well, i will tell you what, brenda. i think it does. here is the sad part. 106,000 for each person. the government can print more money and run up inflation but the person it will affect is my grandchildren if i have any, those are the ones that will be paying. by the time it gets to them. the amount we pay for social security, medicare and interest payments, it's going to drowned out everything else. we won't be able to make enough money in th...