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Of doing this. paul: we still have obamacare, dan! [laughter] >> this is an idea they feel drives voters, if you just ask you for r medicare for all, 50 percent say yes. the minute you put in detail in like the end of private insurance, support drops in half. but this is all aimed at the primary voters in the democratic party. >> interesting that howard schultz criticizing, mike bloomberg and interestingly, the minnesota center amy klobuchar which is probably going to her present. ashe says is going to for let' start with age 55 and now of course 65 and older. she moved it down to 55. so she i...

A better choice, someone in the middle who can speak to their values, they would vote for someone like me. paul: let's bring in wall street journal columnist and deputy editor, dan henninger, mary anastasia o'grady and james freeman. james, howard schultz is a lifetime democrat. >> yes. paul: are you surprised that he is suggesting he might run as an independent? why do that? >> i think he's seeing an opportunity here where poyou ha a democratic nomination process that seems currently built to anoint a progressive extreme left as he is wondering if maybe, there is still a place for liberals in...

Run but who knows! maybe he does well as an independent. he ultimately gets democrats to start thinking maybe they ought to move to the center too. paul: interesting. dan, independence, the last one to run, you know him well. abraham lincoln. he ran as a republican but that was the last one that has won a presidential race. so it is a real long shot. >> it is a real longshot but some how i think it was inevitable that people in the center get very upset at the parties, they think they do not represent them. and howard schultz brings to mind another famous defector from the democratic party. ro...

Sanders did, they feel this is their moment. they have taken over and most democratic presidential candidates are adopting left-wing things like medicare for all. and howard schultz just says, i am left out. i'm going to run down the center and as an independent. paul: what you think of his early message, mary? he stressed the deficit and debt and saying we need to get control over that. and a kind of cultural unity. let's stop dividing people. kind of a classic centrist message. do you think they could sell? >> it sounds really healthy to me. and james says that he sees an opportunity. i thin...