BBCNEWS Dateline London April 1, 2022 18:47:00
He was just really empathetic too, and that was what really struck me. and you could hear that from the clip that you played. but we talked about what what a the future, what would a ukrainian victory look like? we talked about what he needed from the west. but for me, the most powerful bit of that interview was when i, towards the end, i asked him about vladimir putin and i asked him, you know, kind of what...what about vladimir putin? and he said something that wasjust stuck with me ever since, he said "putin is throwing russian soldiers like logs into a train�*s furnace." and it was, heju...
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