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challenging interviews you get here on hardtalk, but my guest today may be has and takes. jerry springer is the king of tabloid trash talking tv in the us. his show specialises in dysfunctional relationships and sex. his guests kurt and so chairs, sometimes they fight. critics call it cynical and manipulative tv, but it made him famous and rich. —— curse and throw chairs. but does he care? jerry springer, welcome to hardtalk. jerry springer, welcome to hardtalk-_ jerry springer, welcome to hardtalk. �*, . ., , hardtalk. it's nice to be here, thanks for— hardtalk. it's nice to...

But how did we get to the kind of show we have, i'll tell you how it happened. at the time we started, there were 20 other talk shows on television. everyone was trying to be like 0prah. we were trying to appeal to the demographic that was referred to as middle—aged housewives. ricki lake was the first to go after high school and college age kids. 0ne first to go after high school and college age kids. one day walking down the street in chicago and the executive producer, i said to him, just as a business model, why are we trying to be one out of 20 shows like 0prah trying to be one out of 2...