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Infrastructure bill and the larger $1.75 economic plan in time. instead, we're learning the house plans to vote on both those bills on tuesday. let's go to phil mattingly live in rome. phil, these leaders know what kind of headwinds biden is facing back at hope. i suppose they have headwinds of their own depending on their individual political situations. how significant are these drawnout talks in congress when it comes to biden's credibility on the world stage? >> i think from a 30,000 foot level, probably the biggest issue, right? the president made clear he wanted to deliver. the president...

But i was extraordinarily honored to get a call from the president. he had seen me do a television hit where i celebrated the framework of the deal he negotiated, that our speaker negotiated. this transformative build back better plan for $1.75, something like that, trillion dollars, and he said, i want to thank you. thank you for standing up for this legislation. i said, mr. president, thank "you." thank you for for focusing on our children, for lifting people out of poverty. for focusing on our climate. i said, mr. president, it's an extraordinary honor you would call me. he said i'm calling...

Looking for tuesday as a new possible date to put both of the bills to a vote and real test here. we have heard this story before, we've seen it before, but there seems to be at least some momentum that is building toward that day. you're talking about the $1.2 trillion infrastructure, bipartisan infrastructure plan, as well as the $1.75 larger spending package that would go through with democrats only in support of it. so, fred, what is this about? part of it is optics, momentum, some of it is driven by need and politics as well, and this could play out in the next 48-72 hours, with tomorrow ...

As much as he has. he asked for 3.5, looks like he's going to get, what works you know the numbers better than i do, 1.75, something like that. that's the old reagan rule. you ask for 100 and you settle for 60 is what reagan learned in hollywood when he was negotiating with the screen actors guild. did president biden set out to do this? no, i don't think so. i've never asked him that directly. i don't think this is some great mastermind plan. but it's what reality is. and one of the things we've learned in the last five years is the price of not dealing in a reality-based universe. we've gone...

Any real progressive who has come out and said we're opposed to the 1.75 top line. i thought the president was so eloquent, particularly when he spoke about education. this is the first time in america we're going to have universal preschool. every kid is going to get to go to preschool. we're going to invest in child care and we're going to have the biggest investment in climate ever. the progressives are on board. what is the issue? let's just get it written so it doesn't get further diluted in the senate. i think that's a legitimate concern, to wait a week, make sure all 50 senators are on ...