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United states of america up until the obama administration had authority to assist and participate and initiate the immigration enforcement. they had that. and the obama administration turned this around and they used clinton appointee judges to make judge made law. and joe arpaio had the rules changed on him in the middle of things and, yes, he defied the order of the judge but he didn't violate federal law. he violated -- [ inaudible ]. >> the supreme court comes up with ruling 53. scalia, may he rest in peace, didn't like it. there was dissent. it was the law of the land. so they come forth...

Judge-made law. and joe arpaio had the rules changed on him in the middle of things and, yes, he defied the order of the judge but he didn't violate federal law. he violated -- [ inaudible ]. >> the supreme court comes up with ruling 53. scalia, may he rest in peace, didn't like it. there was dissent. nobody is saying there wasn't. it was the law of the land. that's what the supremacy laws would dictate, right? so they come forth and say you can't just go round up brown folks because you think they might be illegal aliens, as joe arpaio would call them. you have to be enforcing another law. yo...

>> i don't like it at all but the language in sb-1070 prohibited that there be anyone targeted because of race or ethnicity for that specific purpose. as long as it is part of a list of other things, profiling is necessary for law enforcement. racial profiling set by itself is wrong. >> you say racial profiling as if that wouldn't capture what was happening here. obviously if you were targeting a group of people because of their demographic qualities, their physical qualities, not their behavior, you're going to run into trouble with the law and that's what joe arpaio was doing. and he was fou...

Time sb-1070, arizona's immigration law, up until such time as the supreme court invalidated parts of it. >> right. >> i said to him, joe, i'll help you. and he said i don't need your help. i have all the authority i need to enforce the law. >> the law gets tricky and i think this is more about the morality than the legality. frankly. i'll talk to you about the law in one second. this is about morality. sb-1070 got knocked down the supreme court in part, not completely. you're allowed to ask for immigration documentation in the enforcement of other laws. joe arpaio wasn't doing that. h he was ...

Legislature passed sp 1070, basically making local police departments part of the immigration enforcement system in the state of arizona, he very vigorously and enthusiastically jumped in and maintained his police department's posture even after sb 1070 was shot down by the supreme court. he was a man who was running his own world and in an arizona where the fraction of the population that is represented by latinos grows with every census, this is a state that is uncomfortable with the fact that it's going to be some day a majority/minority state once again and the police were pretty tough. >>...