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The serious opposition is this not federalism? is this not what we've argued for, state authority, the 10th amendment. is this not in the constitution? it's part of the constitution? it can't be a runaway convention, since it still takes 38 states to ratify whatever comes out of there. isn't this a way to take our constitution as written and take it back? >> i think it is, mark. and i've always believed the best government is the most local government. that's a conservative bedrock principle. and what better way to make our government more responsive to the people at the most local level than ...

Tough on immigration and making sure that illegal immigrants are not able to get here and stay here. but so what else are you doing to try to set yourself apart from the rest? >> well, that is important what you brought up. a lot of career politicians use gimmicks to talk about how tough they are on illegal immigration. how about the fact it's many of the policies that career politicians have put in place that drives illegal immigration? why with repaying our citizens to do nothing? you just left a segment on what donald trump is doing on food stamps. we have to address the long-term entitleme...

Federalist system. the 10th amendment of the constitution empowers our individual states to have a lot of rights. so local control and advocating at the local level is a fundamental cornerstone of american democracy. >> sandra: let me give rachel a chance to respond. >> states can't create their own currency and they -- >> i got cut off. >> they cannot do immigration laws on their own. immigration is the purview of the federal government. nobody cares what governor brown has to say about immigration. they elected donald trump who really understands where the american people are at. they want t...

Advantages the wealthy. there's no reason to send the national guard to a border when we have the lowest number of people crossing the border since 1971ment i was graduating from high school back then. the fact is we don't need 4,000 national guard troops to protect america against what he says is a caravan of mothers with their children fleeing violence who aren't even at the border. it's just a farce, a distraction. it's a distraction from the fact that the economy's not working for too many people. we've got to do something about that. >> governor jerry brown still hasn't said if he'll depl...

Passing laws as platitudes. we here by delegate to agency x the power to make good lie in area y. and they can make that law and enforce that law entirely within this executive branch bureaucracy. that's wrong. the trump administration sought in promising to drain the swamp, to reduce the power of the administrative bureaucracy, and it's made good progress. i think we need to make a lot more progress on that front and the federalism front. you don't hear as often as you should that the fact that certain things are not federal issues. in fact most things are not. the 10th amendment makes that c...