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Rove revealed the republican master plan. >> if you look at it in 2009, the unionized workforce made up 12.3% of all workers in america. in 2010 it had dropped to 11.9% of the workforce, they lost 612,000 union members in 2010 alone. think about it, every one of the people had literally perhaps several hundred dollars worth of union dues going into the political coffers of their union to spend on politics. you keep having a couple hundred thousand people each year, if a half million leave every year and pretty soon you start having crimp in the political budgets of these unions and has a direc...

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Wing that he wants to destroy the economy so everything changes? >> no. i buy the argument that his policies have either not helped the economic recovery or have actually hurt it. we had 11.9% economic growth last year. >> you think it's inefficiency. >> i think he is ideological. just got the wrong ideas. he thinks we can spend our way to prosperity. no country in the history of the world has succeeded at that. taken the size from being rough live equal to 25%. taken the public debt of the united states and nearly doubled it in four years. that's not a way to prosperity. >> bill: carl rove. t...

Surgery. you have to use the media and tell people they are the problem. they are getting paid too much and their health care is costing the state too much. pit worker against worker. find a target. the republicans have done a great job of finding a target and going after what is perceived to be a problem now. you are seeing it come home to roost when it comes to the budget. they do not have a budget surplus. they attacked the unions and kicked the can down the road to deal with other budgets. it's a priority list. inside the guts of the unions, they have to educate their people. 37% voted for...