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To a place where they can negotiate from a position of strength. nothing about ukraine without ukraine. we're not going to dictate to them what the end result is. >> when you talk about them negotiating, does that mean they get to keep crimea and parts of the east? >> that means they get to decide that. the ukrainians decide that. but i could picture a circumstance where there's a transition to that. it's not all one time. look, a year ago today, they were only 70 kilometers from te border where russians expected them to come rolling down into kyiv and own it all. they got pushed back. it didn...

Additional economic support for ukraine. >> okay, so just to be clear in case you weren't listening carefully and it's hard to understand, but with a transcript that is not $10 billion more and more aid. that is to fund critical services which is banning christians in nomination. that is worth paying for. leaving aside the aims, that is still $10 billion more in tax dollars on top of the $113 billion that congress has approved. that's $123 billion pledge to ukraine in a year. once you add 1000 other off the book sources of aid the entire intel world, you are looking at perhaps $200 billion to ...

>> so no big announcement, but right there he is acknowledging a potentially big problem. >> there is kind of a race, a competition to going on to shape what comes next. >> china wants in doing something the u.s. hasn't done yet. it proposing peace talks between russia and ukraine. but his team claims peace is far from china's plan. >> china should not get involved in this war in the sense of providing lethal weapons to the russians. that would be a game changer. >> hearted to think why china would want to see this war get more bloody and more violent than it already has. >> president biden ha...

Two countries. >> steve: sure. of course there's been a conflict between russia and ukraine for the last year, as of tomorrow. they'll be the official anniversary. senator, you have been very vocal on twitter. i saw you the other day say that, after sending $113 billion to ukraine in 2022, why should the u.s. even consider sending more until every nato member has begun spending at least 2% of their gdp on defense? it seems like the united states is leading and bankrolling the whole thing, and you think that's just not fair. >> that's right. first of all, this is a european conflict. although u...

We have got to give them whatever they need in order to continue to win this war. >> bret: so there is unity up on capitol hill but you do see cracks. and the number that people are hit by is the $113 billion and they say where is the limit? >> well, $100 billion is 1.6% of the $6.2 trillion budget. when you really put this, i mean, the rounding number itself, when you look spends money on and then you look at this budget wit. >> bret: without u.s. troops fighting it. reagan said, listen, let's help our friends and our allies with a common enemy and give them everything they need to win and le...