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To say. >> it was not an easy decision. we are not sympathetic to that agreement. it took me awhile to be convinced to do it. they either have the weapons to stop the russians from -- keep them from stopping the ukrainian offensive or laid out. i think they needed them. >> sabrina, perhaps the presidents initial hesitation was because of the failure rate of cluster bombs. the washington post reports that the pentagon has assessed that the closer munitions it will be sent to ukraine have a dud rate no higher than 2.35%. when and how was the assessment done? >> the assessment that we did was ove...

3%, 2.35%, and that's much lower than the dud rate munitions russia is using. ukraine will not use these to target civilian areas like the russians have been and they will be used by ukraine to help defend its own territory rather than attack another sovereign territory like russia has been doing. according to the national security adviser, u.s. allies have embraced that argument with open arms. victor, erica? >> thanks so much. ukrainians are claiming some progress in their counter offense against russia. >> the military making advances according to ukraine, putting pressure on russian forc...

More than 1% rate and they're coming up with a number 2.35%. but they haven't explained how they came up with a number on the real number could be upwards of 10%, even 30% because they are in testing these weapons any more. they are old and may be they will do a computer simulation but that is not the same thing is actually, when the bomb hits the ground there may be softer land at the and so the dead weight can be much higher. let's stay with the story because we've just had news and on the story, the us are playing cluster bombs to ukraine. the british prime minister says the uk is a signato...

Many of those studies that have been referenced, at least the ones i've seenin referenced, at least the ones i've seen in the press, were best on stage —— based on dpicms to demilitarised. we'll be providing our most modern dpicms with that rates under 2.35%. between 1998—2022 any. we're confident in those numbers. —— 2022. how they are used matters. that's one reason why as we deliberated, and look — this was a decision that took a while to come to — and all the concerns people have raised, what the reaction of allies and partners would be, what the reaction would be on the hill...

Support for ukraine by bridging us to a point where we are producing sufficient are still munition on a monthly basis across the coalition. they recognise the complexities here, which is why want to quickly provide a few additional pieces of information on dp icm. first, russia has been using cluster munitions indiscriminately since the start of the war. by contrast, you create —— ukraine is seeking dpicm rounds in order to defend its territories. compared to reston munitions, the dpicm rounds will have an extremely low failure or double rate. the dpicm ammunition we are delivering to ukra...