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What went on inside? >> first, people listed their objections, what would have to change in order for them to get to yes and after that, we discussed how to answer those. what i pushed and what senator graham has pushed as well is returning power to the states. give it to the patient, give it to the states, we think it's a better way. that may be common ground. >> melissa: i have your amendment in front of me. looking at some of the details, you said it would be requirement covering pre-existing conditions, that that would be maintained, would you allow states to maintain a waiver to not honor...

Taxpayer money at it. there is money coming from somewhere. can't find out where it is. >> lisa: my understanding is that money is try to stabilize the marketplace in the short-term and in the long term to allow states to be able to do more things. the state innovation waiver currently under section 1332 of obamacare. it's difficult for states to get them approved. the senate bill makes things like that easier. democrats and republicans have said it needs to change. it's not just republicans. >> eric: want to get to a breaking case the president gets to the podium. we will be right back. ex-at...

The mini exchanges. they weren't easy to create. there are only 11 states that said we can do this. are states ready to take on the requirement to create their own customized systems? >> well, this law could present a lot of challenges. one of the appeals to conservatives in this bill is that it would expand the use of the 1332 waivers already in obamacare and would this would do is give states more flexibility in how to handle market places and allow them to opt out of the essential health benefits. >> but are they ready for this? this is going to require some administration. >> right. no, th...

123 billion is a tiny, tiny fraction of our health care spend. the actions taken, medicare fraud collection peeked under the affordable care act. >> martha: what i'm trying to get at is in terms of looking at the system and how it works and getting doctors and patients back into the same sphere where they're dealing with each other instead of these faraway entities, do you think this will bring down costs and help them do that? >> this bill is not perfect, they have to use the reconciliation process. there are so many limitations and what you can do with those parameters. i think there are rea...

Program for high risk individuals. we have submitted a 1332 state innovation waiver. again, all with the hope that we're going to be able to somehow provide for some level of stabilization. what sort of considerations or state-based reinsurance programs will you consider? >> i think the whole array of opportunities that are available to make certain that nobody falls through the cracks. the 32 paver program is one that's just beginning, but it's one that holds significant promise in making certain that we're able to ensure that things like reinsurance, high risk pools mauk it so that individua...