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Much? >> how about neither of those. i do believe -- i do believe in donald trump, and i believe in what he has brought forward. i am very concerned about what hillary clinton has done or will do. thomas, as you are aware, i started the investigation of the clinton foundation in april 2015, 69 of my colleagues joined me on a letter, and there was 70 of us writing to the irs to enquire about that tax exempt status. my home state, tennessee, was unfortunately the state that was the test case for hillary care in the mid-'90s. it nearly bankrupted our state. it was called tin care and it became 35...

It drove the state to the point of bankruptcy, to the point of being 35.3% of the state budget, and it was a democrat governor who ended up taking much of this down and reshaping the program. now, you cannot fix something that is structurally flawed to the point that it does not work. hillary clinton is not the person to come in and fix the health care issues in this country. you're going to have to begin by repealing this, getting this, getting title i of obama care, the insurance title, off the box. >> except that you tried that dozens of times, congresswoman and it hasn't worked. it doesn't...

Estimates. what you have to do is put that in the mix. and address it before this program kicks off. the reason we are confident that this has to be a part of the overall picture is because what we saw with the test republic in my home state of tennessee, it quadrupled in cost over a five-year period of time and ended up being 35.3% of the state's budget. we cannot afford that. if you look at it -- >> i understand that, but i will stop you there. it doesn't explain why not fund the government now. we have fema workers being called in. not being paid. capitol police is a big example yesterday. ...

Fewer folks but the economy itself is doing a whole lot better than the doom and gloomers at the white house. all but guaranteed. despite all these cuts, let me cut to the chase. we spend thousandsç of dollarsn our special artwork here. home sales are booming and washington, dc end of the world looks like everybody else. this is what 23% cut in federal spending, if this is what it looks like. how about 4%. >> neil: and that is off the increase. >> we didn't cut. we slowed the rate of increase. 300,000 jobs since march 1st and this the first two months suns then. 40,000 jobs in washington, ...

26 cents on the dollar of care delivered. not what was billed but care delivered and so indeed the governor came in amid twint're 2000s reed these 35.3 percent of the state budget. >> mike: good heavens. you sap i and the -year fight that i led of th imposition of the state attacks. something had to pay for this bethe state couldn't afford it >> mike: i want to give credit to the governor who is a democrat but an able administrator. he had to wrestle this thing to the ground. betsy, when all of this is talked about . i am not disparage the motives of the people who b great becaue we as well a ...