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Just sort of ran out of steam, and they basically foot dragged, and it got looted. and then it seems like there was an interesting discussion point for the courts here on the 14th amendment. >> the self proclaimed originalist and textualists are just trumpists. because it is very clear in both cases you cite, that section three of the 14th amendment which says that if you've engaged in insurrection or rebellion, you can't hold office again. and here with the monuments clause, you just can't take any money from foreign governments and kings and princes without going to congress for us. it is ve...

Might as well just no longer be in the constitution. now it seems like we may get a similar point with another key portion of the constitution. section three of the 14th amendment, that is the closet prohibits any officer of the united states when engaged in insurrection from ever holding office again. last month, the colorado supreme court and maine secretary of state ruled that donald trump is in violation of that section of the constitution. subsequently, he cannot appear in the ballot on those states. the big question is whether the supreme court will uphold the sections or whether section...

He's not physically feared. the only source of fear is what he's going to say about you on social media, and how other people might react to that. so there is a pretty profound cowardice in the side his own threats. he's not actually facing anybody directly. what you say about the supreme court is really important. if we exist at all, we existed a nation under law, and the supreme court has the constitution, in which the very clear, very clear wording of section three of the 14th amendment makes it clear that an insurrectionist, like mr. trump, or like a number of other people can hold the pre...

What you say about the supreme court is really important. if we exist at all, we existed a nation under law, and the supreme court has the constitution, in which the very clear, very clear wording of section three of the 14th amendment makes it clear that an insurrectionist, like mr. trump, or like a number of other people can hold the presidency or for that matter, any other state or federal office. yet, when you find a lot of people saying, well, we are kind of afraid of what his supporters might do if we enforce the law of the land, and once you take that step, once you preemptively concede...

It is all personal, and that is where the line is. sure, a normal democratic politician will trade favors, will want this for that, but there is usually some sense of operating within the rules. for mr. trump, the are not rules, there's just the idea of him as a person. >> there is also the aspect, i don't think this is the case in tom emmer's case that you would need that physical violent threats but it is the case when you see him in the discourse you've commented on it a bit, even how people react to the section three of the 14th amendment ruling. if you go along with this, there will be vi...