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Director comey, it all adds up to a possible pattern of obstruction of justice, certainly something worth investigating. >> can it still be obstruction of justice if the president is right, that there is no evidence of collusion between his campaign? if there was nothing there and he knows it, is it obstruction of justice to say something outloud? >> it can be. it can be. you don't have to succeed in obstructing justice to commit obstructing justice. the federal statute, title 18, section 1503 says to attempt to obstruct justice is a crime as well as actually obstructing justice. >> even if it...

All of the words in those memos. then, as you suggest, we have to look at 18 usc 1503 and study it carefully and study the cases. in my view, i side with professor turley who has said that he thanks this would be a very hard approaching case to make the five alex, if the president had said instead, mr. comey, stop the investigation or you're fired. now, that might be the specific intent required for obstruction, right? it certainly would. but that the context of this. you don't always have to say every word to be able to understand someone's intent. having a conversation like that with doctor ...

Well-known saying about history. history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes. james fallow has written a piece saying in some respects, while it's too easy to talk about watergate, in some respects what we're dealing with is far more significant than a third-rate burglary intended to get information to embarrass enemies, political enemies. in this case we have something that seems to be spiraling out of conol so much more quickly than did watergate or anything else of its kind. where are we right now? no hyperbole, no nothing, not being hyperbolic, but where are we right now? >> joe, i w...

Information to embarrass enemies, political enemies. in this case we have something that seems to be spiraling out of control so much more quickly than did watergate or anything else of its kind. where are we right now? with no hyperbole, no nothing, we're not being hyperbolic, but where are we right now? >> well, joe, i would think from michael's fine reporting in "new york times," right at the edge of title 18 section 1503 of the united states code, which is obstruction of justice. and we have director comey's contemporaneous notes, they're called 302s, the fbi is very familiar with them, di...

Shut it down, close it down, that's the word that michael schmidt uses in the "new york times" story, that is, as far as i can tell, obstruction of justice. there is a statute many federal prosecutors are familiar with, title 18, united states code section 1503. it is often prosecuted in the federal courts. it says whoever corruptly, maybe i can just read it. i'm sorry to -- yeah. whatever corruptly influences or endeavors to inflew entuence th administration of justice is guilty of obstruction of justice. it is not a complicated law. if you corruptly with bad intent, try to influence or endea...