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Have said they are a stipend attached to some office. i don't know if that is correct or not. i think it is being litigated right now. >> i don't know why they are. i will try to find out and come back another day and discuss it. your memo stated a fatal flaw in mueller's interpretation of 1512 c-2. is that while defining obstruction solely is acting corruptly. mueller offers no definition of what corruptly means. my understanding is that there is nothing in the public record that sheds light on his definition of obstruction. do you know what his definition is? >> i don't know what his definit...

>> that's the same answer. >> thank you. in your june 2018 memo about obstruction of justice to the mueller investigation, you repeatedly referred to mueller's, quote, sweeping and all encompassing trepuation of section 1512 which is a statute on obstruction. how do you know what mueller's interpretation of 1512 is? >> i was speculating. i said at the beginning i was writing in the dark, and we are all in the dark. every lawyer, every talking head, everyone who thinks about or talks about it doesn't have the facts. >> so i spent my saturday reading that memorandum. so are you saying this is al...

Forth. the statute that relates to obstructing a proceeding that is not yet in being, some future proceeding is 1512. my view was of the particular provision 1512 c was that it requires -- what it covers is obstruction by means of impairing evidence. that you know some evidence is going to be needed in the future proceeding and you impair it either by making it not available or by corrupting it in some way. altering it, destroying it. that's what i thought the scope was that statute dealt with. to my knowledge, the only case ever brought under it involve the disruption of evidence. based on pu...

The imoluments klauclause. i would have said they were essentially a stipend attached to some office but i don't know if that's correct or not. i'm sure it is being litigated right now. >> i don't know why. i am going to try and find out. we'll come back another day and discuss it. your memo stated a fatal flaw in mueller's interpretation of 1512 c-2, is that while defining obstruction solely is acting corruptly, mueller offers no definition of what corruptly means. my understanding is that there is nothing in the public record that sheds light on his definition of obstruction. do you know wha...

Regulations that are part of the special counsel regulations. >> will you commit to making any report on the obstruction of justice public? >> that's the same answer. >> in your june, 2018 memo with obstruction of justice, you repeatedly referred to mueller's sweeping and all emcompassing interpretation of section 1512, which is a statute on obstruction. how do you know what mueller's interpretation of 1512 is? >> well, as i said, i was speculating. i freely said at the beginning i was writing in the dark. every lawyer, every talking head, everyone who thinks about it or talks about it doesn't...