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Have been talking about is the letter spends a long time about a particular obstruction statute and they don't discuss the more relevant and more recent statute 1512. there are a lot of problems with the legal argument. >> they cite the wrong statute. let's focus on the big picture as you mentioned. just generally they say in this letter that the president, a president cannot obstruct justice because he is the president. is that right? is that a common view in legal thinking and among legal experts? >> it doesn't come up that often. it comes up almost never. one of the central questions relate...

Testifies in front of a grand jury. but that prohibition against not being fully truthful means a little bit more to lawyer whose are officers of the court. so mcgahn obviously has a lot of insight into his conversations with the president, and as we've learned tonight from this story, the president is prone to talk to witnesses. something his lawyers have undoubtedly advised him against doing. where this could become a crime, there's a narrow species of obstruction, witness tampering, it has its own statute. 18 u.s. code 1512. and it makes it among other things illegal for someone to try to c...

Legal duty. what do you see in this story that do don mcgahn is likely to provide to mueller? >> in response to questions that are posed to him, he must be truthful, like anyone else, he testifies in front of a grand jury. but that prohibition against not being fully truthful means a little bit more to lawyer whose are officers of the court. so mcgahn obviously has a lot of insight into his conversations with the president, and as we've learned tonight from this story, the president is prone to talk to witnesses. something his lawyers have undoubtedly advised him against doing. where this coul...

Questions, mr. director. in your experience with the department of justice, have you ever prosecuted a case involving a charge of obstruction of justice? >> yes. sections 1505 and 1512 of title 18 make it a crime if someone obstructs, influences or impedes any official proceeding. what does it mean to corruptly obstruct, influence or impede an official proceeding? >> well, congressman, that would require me to get into a legal discussion and it has been a while since i've looked at the case law on the subject. i do know having somebody who has been a line prosecutor and a senior justice depart...

Tweets are, quote, official statements of the president of the united states close quotes. a few clarifying questions, mr. director. in your experience at the department of justice have you ever prosecuted a case involving a charge of obstruction of justice? >> yes. >> sections 1503, 1505 and 1512 of title 18 make it a crime if someone corruptly obstructs or impedes any official proceeding. what does it mean to corruptly obstruct influence or impede an official proceeding? >> well, congressman, that would require me to get into kind of a legal discussion and it's been a while since i looked at...