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Subsidy to pbs, endowment for the humanities and cutting congress back to '08 levels in spending and you are there. i believe that way the republicans go to the country and say we're not shutting down the government. we are shutting down three unnecessary programs, zero funding them. if the democrats still cling to those programs, the onus is on them. >> sean: that's a good idea. let me see if i can give some perspective. i think americans are getting lost in millions, billions and trillions. 3.7 trillion is a lot. in three years obama accumulating nearly five trillion in debt is a lot of mone...

Back now with congressmen. the last time we met i promised you time here on the economy. listen, just to sum it up. the democrats pumper sticker is basically yeah, but if we go back they are promising the same things that got us into the mess. seems to me the republican response is they spent all the money and the unemployment rate is 9.5. >> the democrats held the gaff annual for four years. when they took office the deficit was $161 billion. now it's $1.4 trillion and onward. >> they also walked into two wars. >> the first time since 1974, this is going to be about jobs. this is the first co...

George bush's last day in office we saw the country losing 700,000 jobs a month and it takes time to turn things around. are we where we want to be? of course not. are we better off than where we were under the bush economic policies where an eight-year period resulted in lost -- >> chris, you have been in power for four years. when you took the deficit, it was $161 billion. today it's $1.4 trillion. >> candy, can i just say -- >> the president is not up for re-election. >> kevin, you can say your peace. elections are about the future. our point here is that not to talk about all the things th...

It takes time to turn things around. are we where we want to be? of course not. are we much better off than where we were under the bush economic policies that over an eight-year period resulted in over 670,000 lost private sector jobs after that eight-year period? yes, we are. >> when you took the deficit it was only $161 billion. today it's $1.4 trillion. >> if i could just interrupt here. >> the day the president put his hand on the bible, he was facing record deficits. candy, can i just say -- >> the president -- >> kevin, you can say your piece. elections are about the future. and our poi...

Back now with congressman chris van hollen and kevin mccarthy. congressman mccarthy, when last we met i promised you some time on the economy. listen, just to sum it up, the democrats' bumper sticker which won't fit onto a bumper is, yeah, but if we go back, they are promising the same things that got us into this mess. it seems to me the republican response is they spent all this money and the jobless rate is 9.5. does that sum up this election? >> it's going to be about jobs. but if you look, the democrats have held the gavel for four years. when they took office, the deficit was 161 billion...