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Some on your side would say, where are they? where are the ideas about how to really spur growth and get rid of some of these regulations? >> well, rand paul has a good one and number of house republicans have good proposals in terms of counter to obamacare which will become more and more relevant as the thing collapses. obamacare is the greatest social experiment failure in this country since prohibition and i think republicans do have a number of proposals to step in and deal with this problem. martha: steve forbes, thank you very much. >> thank you, martha. martha: we'll see what happens. a...

The market may not be the place for them. it is natural. the lesson we go back to march 2009, dow at 6600. i say billions, billions of dollars were sold. billions of dollars worth of stock. heartbreaking how many people sold at massive loss. not only sell it a loss but miss ad amazing run-up. so the point is i believe people should always be in market. you don't always have to be 100% invested. you should always be in the market, trying to pick the top or bottom is folly. longer term, big crash in the great depression the dow went to 65. here we are talking about 16,500. people are alive who r...

Crucible, just how much influence would mcnamara and others have in helping the president move away from that reticence into more action. because, remember, they had gone if a handful of the 16,000 in a very, very short period of time of having, you know, advisers on the ground in vietnam. >> and melody to bring you back in, can you talk more broadly about that transition in general, from the kennedy administration, to the johnson administration. we were talking earlier about sort of robert cairo, the historian, the writer popularized the idea that a lot of what john f. kennedy wanted to do, l...

Remember this? >> we estimate we can cut average family's premium by about $2500 per year. i am actually not interested in just capping premiums, i want to lower premiums, by an average of $2500 per family per year. we will start by reducing premiums by as much as $2500 per family. it's time to bring down the typical family premium by $2500. it's time to bring down the costs for the entire country. >> now, premiums have gone up minimum $2500 per family and average the heritage foundation estimates they're at $16,500 per family right now. not only that but people are finding out that their dedu...

Lower premiums, by an average of $2500 per family per year. we will start by reducing premiums by as much as $2500 per family. it's time to bring down the typical family premium by $2500. it's time to bring down the costs for the entire country. >> now, premiums have gone up minimum $2500 per family and average the heritage foundation estimates they're at $16,500 per family right now. not only that but people are finding out that their deductible is going to be much higher, so that's the amount that you have to pay out of pocket up until a certain amounting until your insurance kicks in. for a...