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Country, these are things we need. and the subject matter experts that have done this job, we aree telling you, we need a wall, road, infrastructure, cameras to detect the traffic coming across and the brave men and women out there to do the job right. >> laura: you saw the facts in the angle, $175 billion just in fiscal year 2017 on counter terror measures. and we can't find $25 billion over a period of time to pay for a physical barrier? a it's not everything, b stop a lt of the flow. we saw in operation gate keeper in the san diego sector, that cut down border crossings by 89%. that was sta...

175 billion to fight terrorism. and that doesn't count for thet trillions that we spent on the wars in iraq, afghanistan and work in syria and pakistan. a brown university study estimates the total cost of all that since 9/11 through this year could be a staggering $5.6 trillion. so we lay out all this money to enforce other country's bordersr but we can't afford $20 billion to enforce and fortify our own? a porous border remains one of our greatest threats. since 2001 there have been more than 11.6 million illegal border crossings along our southern border. just the last few days, the border ...

$175 billion last year, this just isn't right. i'm sure you paid more in federal taxes. >> i did. i haven't put tens of thousands of people out of work, like amazon has. they've hired a lot but they have put many more out of work. they destroyed many more businesses than they have created. i get it, that is the nature of market capitalism. they feel no obligation to give back it also the federal treasury at all? >> what's worse is that they are able to grandfather in deferred taxes. deferred taxes, those that they have delayed in the past, perfectly legal, now they can have those taxes at the ...

>> tucker: let me correct one thing there. actually, no. "the new york times" today lept to amazon's defense, in effectha by saying, that is not really true. they instinctively defended a company for paying no federal taxes. this is how upside down our world is. >> that's unusual. i would expect most democrats or liberal newspaper or source to not back a big corporation paying zero federal income tax. >> tucker: you would think that. yet, it's a very liberal corporation. >> here's a reason why they get away with it, from the sources various tax breaks, they say that executive stock options are...

Newark -- >> trish: for amazon. >> yes. just for amazon. maryland offering a $5 billion tax incentive. we're talking about state economies really having issues. california as well. we're looking at -- if you look at the states on the list of potential and cities on the potential places for h.q., these are states that have been torn apart by economy, economic issues the last five to ten years. >> i get it. they all want amazon to come there because that means jobs, more money for the state. but in the interest of total fairness, it really seems that if you're going to change the rules for one p...