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Carlisle. he understands the impact. he's not going to make a mistake. >> trish: i'm going to play devil's advocate. think about this. if i know interest rates are going up tomorrow, if i'm a business owner, i'm going to invest today. i'm not going to wait six months or next year. there's an incentive to do it today. but if interest rates stay low for the foreseeable future, why do today what you can do tomorrow? >> it's interesting. someone did a survey for would-be home buyers. the magic number is 5%. you're right. there's the -- there's an intangible. if it feels like you're going up and yo...

Money. florida is in the same situation. here in colorado, we train our young servicemen and women just getting out on how to respond to an active shooter. private schools hire them. we haven't had one incident in the schools we protect here in colorado where we have an armed guard. why isn't everybody doing that same thing? >> trish: they say it's too costly. we are talking about arming teachers and that's one solution. we can pursue that. if you are a teacher that knows how to shoot and is skilled in that way, i understand and i empathize with someone wanting to protect themselves and their ...

>> in terms of the bonus that corporate america received versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to put the schmooz is so pathetic. >> any leader that says it's crumbs is out of touch with the american people. >> trish: i wonder if she's regretting that comment. a new poll could prove that mike pence is right. according to harvard harris, voters are warming to the republican tax cuts and that's helping the president's numbers. let's go to the man behind the numbers, mr. mark penn, former clinton strategist and co-director of harvard cap harris. good to see you.

With anything. they care about only attacking donald trump. it's an obsession that the press corps has with him. you can understand why he has a 91% of the coverage against donald trump is negative because they're looking for anything, anything at all to try to attack him on. now trish, let's think about this for a second. what doesn't use note cards? we all have used note cards? every president has used a note card. barack obama spent eight years usi using teleprompters. >> i don't have note cards but i have a packet of research. i get it. >> i'm going to show you -- >> trish: i hear you. and...

Them back and i think they were stolen by trump and his message in the last election. they may be up for grabs. this is a strong economy. >> trish: stolen or just cast aside? nobody cared about them. suddenly, you know, you heard a message from of all things the wealthiest man to have ever run for president. he seemed to relate to your average american than anybody we saw from the democratic party. >> fdr was quite wealthy himself. almost a tradition of wealthy candidates doing well with working class voters in this country. i'd say no question that he had a message on the economy and democrat...