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Populations that we have. i'll tell you what. people on medicaid, i mean, medicaid kills people because of the quality of the care. we can't afford medicaid anymore. all i'm saying is, health care is becoming a bigger, bigger, bigger part of our budget. it is bankrupting this country and we're not having that grown up discussion. and lord knows, look at the mess the the republicans are in now. they're not contributing to this discussion at all. >> i'm with you. you and i are not having a partisan discussion which is what i appreciate. i want to show you another fact. what i'm trying to get you...

Once again, the united states. there's a kind of a regn w all these people weren't ruing to get, there are some countries higher but 807, the average of all developed countries is 79.3 years in life expectancy. the united states bringing up the rear again, 78.8. i will say one thing. i put this financial so i've expectancy is not simply lower because of a peek pending per capita in develop and in the frn

And charles krauthammer. steve, bad news obviously. how bad. in perspective? >> i'd say very bad. we talked about the job report every month we say basically things have been slowly getting better. maybe we are treading water. nobody knows the recovery is not great. it's, we're not slipping back. this is backwards movement. obviously. quite obvious. you can judge how bad is it looking at the white house response. you have white house communication director dan pfeiffer insisting that the economy still heading in the right direction, which i think is certainly disputable. then you had austan go...