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Chance of success on that? i think we have to look at is there a method for us to get that information voluntarily? is there a way to assure the country that the president behind closed doors is not sacrificing the interests of the country? it's always our presence to get voluntary cooperation before we consider compulsion. >> senior political reporter and analyst is with us, gloria borger -- davand "usa today" columnist kirsten powers, mike shields, and the obama solicitor general. neal, from the legal standpoint, can the white house make a valid executive privilege argument on the interprete...

Sacrificing the interests of the country? it's always our preference to get voluntary cooperation before we consider compulsion. >> chairman, thank you very much. senior political reporter and analyst is with us, gloria borger, david gergen, columnist kirsten powers, mike shields, and the obama solicitor general. neal, from the legal standpoint, can the white house make a valid executive privilege argument on the interpreter's notes? >> they can try but i think they'll lose. executive privilege goes all the way back to george washington. he asserted it in 1792 with respect to the indians. he l...

Whitaker appointment, 3 democratic senators filed this lawsuit monday in federal court. what do you expect, if anything to come of this? >> this lawsuit is based on a provision of the constitution that requires cabinet members and government officials to get confirmed by the united states senate and both sides of this controversy are making legitimate arguments donald trump has the benefit and advantage of saying his position is supported by supreme court precedent, acts of congress spanning 3 decades dating back to 1792 and hundreds of instances where presidents have made similar appointments...

As you mentioned, everybody president, beginning the george washington who almost did not stand for re-election. i won't say run because nobody ran a second term because he was so tired of being criticized. so this drama starts in 1792. and presses forward. what's a little different is that we used to have to at least hear from aides or in the extraordinary case of the nixon tapes, we would hear nixon himself denouncing the press. we would hear where the unhappiness of presidents usually in the most casual kind of remark offhand or a leak. this is a case where the president has turned the work...

This more pernicious than just another trump thing? >> well, he is actively making the working press a target of the wrath of people in physical proximity one to another. which is a really remarkable thing. as you mentioned, every president beginning with george washington who almost did not stand for re-election, i won't say run because nobody ran against him but almost decided not to seek a second term because he was so tired of being criticized. so this drama starts in 1792. and presses forward. what's a little different is that we used to have to at least hear from aides or in the extraord...