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Statements to his supporters before the riot, quoting now, is the essence of civil conspiracy, end quote. michael zeldin is a former federal prosecutor and host of a podcast. good to see you. what's your reaction to this ruling that former president donald trump can be sued for his role in that capitol riot? >> well, it's an important decision. it will be appealed because the questions of whether or not this is 1st amendment protected speech and whether the president has absolute immunity as a former president are important legal issues. but at this stage, what the judge has said is that there...

In the aftermath of the war, the civil war generation passed laws designed to protect america from insurrections in the future. those laws might once have seemed like historic relics. lately they've been getting another look, and with good reason. last week a jury in charlottesville, virginia, awarded $26 million in damages against the white nationalists who organized and participated in the violent unite the right rally spearheaded by integrity first for america demonstrated that the defendants, including neo nazis and neo con fed rats were guilty of conspireing to commit acts of violence. wh...

Thank you for coming to "the sunday show." >> thank you for having us. >> roberta, we sat down for an interview in my podcast at the washington post four years ago after you and karen were hired by the integrity for america, a nonprofit civil rights organization that helped to support the lawsuit. you were using the 1871 -- i think the klan law, to bring this suit. talk about that law and why it was so important for the suit you both brought. >> so the ku klux klan after 1871 basically means what it says. it was a law passed by the reconstructionist congress after the civil war to stop the vio...

Governmental conduct. and our argument and our case was that what happened in charlottesville four years ago is exactly believe it or not what congress in 1871 intended to prohibit, just the modern version. so rather than wearing robes and hoods as you saw in that photo, they were on telegram and discord and they used the internet, but it was exactly the same thing. that's the law that we use. >> and, karen, one of the things that came out after the decision was made, was handed down, that a lot of these organizations are, like, we don't have the money to pay this, where are we going to get th...

Bank erupt these racist leaders and their organizations and to send a message that there are consequences beyond the criminal arena for those who conspire to commit racially motivated violence. this trial was closely watched on the far right, and these judgments, presuming they stand, will follow these men forever. that said, this wasn't a complete victory for the victims who sued. the jury deadlocked on two counts of conspiracy under the 1871 ku klux klan law, and the plaintiffs didn't get the damage they asked for. about half of the $25 million was levied against single defendant james field...