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Him something, going to read that again. when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone who owes him something, that businessman asks that person to pay up before signing the check. it is not over. i come to the understanding well before then, the investigation was a term that ambassador volker and sondland used toz mean matters relating to the 2016 elections and to the investigation of burisma and the bidens. >> taylor is as career diplomat. he's not a political person. he's also a west point graduate. he was appointed by george w. bush in 2006, served in every administration from bot...

Pay its bills, just to try to blackmail a president into giving them some concessions on issues that have nothing to do with the budget. i mean, this is the united states of america. we're not a deadbeat nation. and that's why i will not negotiate on anything when it comes to the full faith and credit of the united states of america. >> president obama speaking today at a community college in maryland. ronald reagan saying the same thing in 1985. joining us, steve kornacki, host of "up with steve kornacki" and he's also a senior writer with salon. fighting over the debt ceiling is not a brand-...

Enough to threaten default. to threaten an economic shutdown, to suggest america not pay its bills, just to try to blackmail a president into giving them some concessions on issues that have nothing to do with the budget. i mean, this is the united states of america. we're not a deadbeat nation. and that's why i will not negotiate on anything when it comes to the full faith and credit of the united states of america. >> president obama speaking today at a community college in maryland. ronald reagan saying the same thing in 1985. joining us now is steve kornacki, host of "up with steve kornack...