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Going to do everything we can to make sure obama's presidency fails. >> yeah. >> i think i'm right about that. and that was, in a way, one of the harbingers of where we are now. it was a continuation, an extenuation of what had been the gingrich model. he is a more effective gingrich when you think about what gingrich brought to the house in 1994, '95, which is the sense of absolute opposition no matter what. it started in '93, really, with the health care, the clinton health care. the republican strategy was we're not going to listen. we're simply going to stop it. when you pull back the hist...

Of the senate without talking about mcconnell. remember how shocked we were, i guess it was in '08, '09, check me on it, mcconnell said we're going to do everything we can to make sure obama's presidency fails. >> yeah. >> i think i'm right about that. and that was, in a way, one of the harbingers of where we are now. it was a continuation, an extenuation of what had been the gingrich model. he is a more effective gingrich when you think about what gingrich brought to the house in 1994, '95, which is the sense of absolute opposition no matter what. it started in '93, really, with the health ca...

Variations? >> when you look at serial bombers, we haven't had that many, they have done that, gravitated, evolved, changed. if you look at theodore kaczynski, half of his bombs were mailed, half were placed but by the time we were into the 1994-95 time frame, being effective at killing people which he wanted to do his bombs were much smaller in a much smaller package and much more lethal. we learned through experimentation if you look at the olympic bomber eric robert rudolph he learned as he went through his spree from the olympic bombing. >> we are looking at a live shot in austin, texas wh...