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Dynamic. you can defy all the rules. can a person who emerges were to bring people together? he would be crazy to take himself out television. it's a sign of the times that in 2007, 2002008, can an african-american man win as the president? the question is can a white guy become -- >> and a geologist. >> sometimes we make the mistake sitting in washington. senator this or senator that or someone who came through, it might be a good time to be an outside guy from the west states that are changing. the new map emerging. saying don't forget about us. >> there is disincentive for getting in. the o...

270 but donald trump could win the popular vote because the turnout estimates wind up being low -- >> wrong. >> well that would be counterto what we are seeing. in fact for quite some time we were seeing a tighter electoral college race than the popular vote if you will would suggest. you are right to question turnout. because that is always going to be the question about election. like whose supporters turn out at the numbers that the candidate needs, and there's no way to know that before you actually get to the election, and count the votes. >> but is it true, david, that the estimates for ...

Roosevelt -- speak softly and carry a big stick. i promise you, the president has a big stick. >> reporter: the fever pitch of speculation about joe biden is in some ways reaching a peak here and could i think from talking to sources end up being on the down swing. and is it actually teetering on the edge of fatigue out here, jose. >> kasie hunt in las vegas, thank you very much. steve, good morning. hillary clinton participated in more than 20 debates in the 2008 election season. far less this time around. what do we know about hillary clinton the debater? >> everybody probably has memories...

Tonight. he hasn't been thus far. >> and also, congresswoman, obama leads by 12% to 13% with women in the latest battle ground polls. this is about the same as 2000 #. 2002008. do you see it widening with the latest comments? >> i think the latest admission from mitt romney that he's trying to hide his true positions and hide the ball on women's health, that he is the most extreme candidate for president for women's reproductive health in anyone's memory, that is part of the reason why obama and biden enjoy overwhelming support from women, whether it's investing in education, or making sure th...

Vice-president debates, i think, vealyielded a lot more entertaining moment and some think they'll stand out more. >> lloyd benson and dan quayle, 2002008. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. (cheer (cheers) >> that was a fierce moment. >> that was a strong zinger and perhaps the most memorable moment from the vice-presidential debate and often, a vice-presidential debate is about assurance. can the second person on the ticket become president and step in if need be. you've got to remember in 1988 who was president? ronald reagan. lloyd benson had been in the...