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Primary loser advantage over chris christie and marco rubio who didn't have the courage to go out there this year like tim pawlenty and lose their way to the next republican presidential nomination. and so tonight, i am declaring the front runner for the next presidential nomination is tim pawlenty. how does crazy does that sound? >> i give you 7. >> i'll accept a 7 on this one. >> it's as crazy as the base is crazy, which is to say in a normal year. >> remember, the base is crazy. s in this is not john mccain's new party in 20088. r it's not that party, is it? >> if you were running a compute...

i want to bring in mark preston to talk about with what all of this means. i guess in a way mark, we knew that things were partisan. that's not surprising. but if you look at how pew researchers measure this, 48 different ways of measuring how we feel about politics over the years, and they find that we're more divided than ever. almost double over the past 25 years. why? >> you know suzanne, talk about a comprehensive study that pew has done now, you know, there's a lot of reasons. and what's interesting is that it shows that not only are we more divided politically but also seeing ...

Far too high. there t. is also rather embarrassing that the president's own debt commission says he not doing nearly enough to solve the debt crisis. a very simple strategy. the u.s. government must go back to 2008. it must spend the same amount of money that it did before the recession hit. the budget in 2008 was 2.2 -- 2.9 trillion. almost a trillion dollars less than the 2012 proposal. the deficit in 2008 was 458 billion. 60% lower than projected deficit in 12. so let let's go back to 20088. that would mean the defense department would get 612 billion instead of 884 billion. the department ...

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Many economists saying that's far too high. there t. is also rather embarrassing that the president's own debt commission says he not doing nearly enough to solve the debt crisis. a very simple strategy. the u.s. government must go back to 2008. it must spend the same amount of money that it did before the recession hit. the budget in 2008 was 2.2 -- 2.9 trillion. almost a trillion dollars less than the 2012 proposal. the deficit in 2008 was 458 billion. 60% lower than projected deficit in 12. so let let's go back to 20088. that would mean the defense department would get 612 billion instead o...