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That's a significant number. >> he has to find a way to fix this. the white house would prefer to do it administratively. there are democrats particularly those in the senate up for re-election who want to do it legislatively because they need to tell their constituents they put the president on notice that this isn't going to go with them. that they feel that they've been misled, as well. so i think the president has problems in his own party. and that's not good heading into 2014. >> certainly isn't. all right, gloria, thanks very much. gloria will be back later in the situation room", as we...

Do you think that? >> i don't think it's the first time she's going to run. the signs have been around for a while. in this case, perhaps i'm naive, and it's been a long time since anyone could accuse he of being that. i would take the white house at their word. we all know hillary clinton and president obama were fierce competitors during the primary campaign. after she became secretary of state, however, first they got mutual respect and then they became real friends. i do think this was basically two friends catching up. no doubt they talked about events in the middle east, no doubt what el...

First sign that she's going to run. do you think that? >> i don't think it's the first time she's going to run. the signs have been around for a while. in this case, perhaps i'm naive, and it's been a long time since anyone could accuse he of being that. i would take the white house at their word. we all know hillary clinton and president obama were fierce competitors during the primary campaign. after she became secretary of state, however, first they got mutual respect and then they became real friends. i do think this was basically two friends catching up. no doubt they talked about events ...

Survivalists instead of hunters. they are owned now by people that are far more radical on issues than ronald reagan ever dreamed of being, and that's why they just keep losing. >> this is precisely the point. and everything you guys described having happened, i was there, as meacham said, i was part of it, but i think the difference was that while we certainly had our share of ideologues on the democratic party, we had the democratic wing of the democratic party that resisted to some degree this move back to the center, what you see now in terms of ideologues and rigidity and just complete ze...