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Will be out of afghanistan by the end of 2016. meanwhile we will be broadening out our anti-terrorism commitments worldwide. but with money and training not boots on the ground. we have vice chairman of kissinger associates and the author of price of liberty, paying for america's wars. gentlemen, good to see you. let's talk about first the draw down in afghanistan by 2016. sooner than people thought? do you think this is a shift in our policy? >> not really. i think the big shift is articulated by obama and west point. we had been saying that cyber security was the biggest threat to american n...

Mccain had been a bad candidate. i think after losing an election that they should have won given how bad the economy is, i think you're going to start to see the process of some people saying -- >> this is the big question -- >> i wish -- >> -- of the country. maybe it will take a third loss >> i think it will take a third loss. >> nine losses in we're sitting here at the table in 2016. >> sooner or later we're going to have a republican version of the democratic leadership council and a struggle inside the republican party the kind the democratic party had. >> i think you will not have that ...