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See how it unfolds, i can easily see this, instead of it being 20 ton, it being 2018. because as you remember, will motivate a lot of people in 2017 and 2018 was the worry about this issue. this comes to pass, it's taken that worry to degree that is now become reality. so, love to see it all unfold. i will guess most republicans in swing districts and swing states are not looking at this well. mitch mcconnell is probably not looking at the swell. because i think we don't know the fundamental way as it says, resets, it but it moves and they will dramatically different than it was yesterday. >> ...

But that support is there for him. and so that white vote that trump grabbed in 2016 was off the radar for 30 years, all right. he tapped into that vote and pulled it out. yes, there were a lot of dems who stayed home, and they can come back. but don't understand estimate the possibility that more of that white vote is out there. >> that's exactly what they're doing. >> exactly. >> they are spending tens of millions of dollars trying to find new voters because trump has not shrunk -- >> he needs mike pence. >> but he also needs the white identity politics and white resentment. so it's both. he...

Now, is a large and important factor in that in turning off a lot of voters. i think the democratic party, we often in this bubble, we talk about impeachment, not impeachment. but in fact out on the campaign trail, where democrats won overwhelmingly, they were making the argument on exhibition, on social policy, on immigration. >> health care. >> on health care over and over again, every day. maybe not with the poetry that we would like to see from west wing-quality language. but they were winning the argument and it showed a to the blot box in 2018. and i think that we have enough time betwee...

When there is not a split neither party, neither biden or mcconnell nor democrats nor republicans recommended waiting for an election. that election happened in 2018. because what happened with brett cavanagh republicans not only held the senate but added to their senate seats so they are entitled to put forward the president's nominee. if that becomes the case in 2020. shannon: this is all speculation. washington post right to this. what are we going to do about it? mention court packing and many liberals and moderates bring their hands and fret about the supreme court at legitimacy but the c...

Or republicans have recommended waiting for an election, it already happened in 2018. because of what happened with brett kavanaugh, republicans not only held the senate, they added to their seats. if that becomes a case in 2020. >> shannon: this is all speculation, who knows. everyone may stick around for another ten years. "the washington post" writes what are we going to do about it, he mentioned the words court packing and many liberals and moderates wring their hands and fret about the supreme court's legitimacy but the court's legitimacy is already shot to hell. i want to get you to weig...