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Establishment or is a puppet of the establishment. these are among the things that they're using facebook and twitter and other places to try to sow divisions among americans in the lead-up to the 2018 election. so, pretty much the same playbook that we saw happen in 2016 is what the russians are up to again in 2018. >> yeah. all right. evan, thank you so much. "outfront" with me now is former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, harry sandick. harry, as evan was just pointing out, in court today, prosecutors were saying that they couldn't say how much longer that the...

Delivering your own message. >> joe? >> yeah, just final thoughts. i want to go back to what brian said and what we've said this morning, that there are two options on the table after looking at the 55-minute meeting yesterday. one is that we are actually seeing trump, the reality president, season two, the premiere. maybe this is what he does over the next year to confound his critics. there is also, brian, though, the possibility that this is just a continuation of a scattershot presidency and yesterday was just a subplot, which he will blow to pieces. >> yeah, but it's a new year, joe, let'...