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And nationally. i think those numbers -- the statistics that you guys are putting out at the southern poverty law center are staggering. what do you ascribe to that? why the dramatic up tick in the extremist groups in the united states? >> the jump begins right in early 2009 and it's dramatic. we bent -- to 130060 in four years. so that, i think obviously is tied to the election of barack obama. of course, that's what immediately precedes this rise. i think the main driver of this growth is the election of our first black president, and more importantly, what that election represents. the chan...

Momentum is in 2008, barack obama won two thirds, no 2012 three quarters, this is the fastest growing demographic in the country, by 2043, the united states will be a majority minority company. that gives republicans tremendous incentive to do something. >> so just go ahead and do it and let's move on. >> that's just the demographic reality here, but robert, there's also -- there's a cost. the senator for american progress has a number of studies in terms of the path to citizenship would at 1.1 trillion to the gdp, and add 144 billion to federal and state, local taxes, and mass deportation bey...

We're not collecting 16% of gdp by taxes. by 2043 those programs will take up all the revenue we're generating. so you have to change them and save them. what i'm looking from the president, let's harmonize the retirement age for medicare with social security. adjust it from 65 to 67, over a 25 to 30-year period. means test, medicare and social suit. people my income level should recalculate and social security and medicare and cpi. martha: pardon me, if you want to increase revenues from people pr well off, why wouldn't that be why wouldn't that be a an issue you could embrace. i asked so man...

The document as a hole is going nowhere but within his budget he embraces chain cpi. basically recalculating the benefit formula for social security and medicare, which will save a lot of money over the next 30 years, and the left is going nuts. i want to compliment the president for embracing that change as recommended by bowles-simpson, just about every bipartisan group serious about budget reform. and he did some things on the medicare front that are small steps towards entitlement reform. martha: you say, you know, this plan could have, i'm paraphrasing you but could get a guy like me to l...

Really the explosion began in the fall of 2008 which is the moment when two things happened, when barack obama appears on the national political scene for the first time and of course when the economic collapse begins with the subprime crisis. it seems clearly to be related, very closely to that, those two factors and it's not only the person of the president, our first black president but the demographic change he represents, in other words the idea that whites are predicted to lose their majority, fall under 50% of the population by 2043 so there are big changes happening in our society, and...