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It will be under 3,000. >> now the reason these numbers are important is the last figure that we had was last tuesday. that's 9 days ago. then said 2,047 still in custody. so this newest mate is much higher. hhs secretary today says that is because the court ordered required officials to go back further in time to comb through thousands of cases to finds any separated children. not just to focus on the administration's zero tolerance policy. so this number here includes children who were separated before that policy that again started in may. and again this, jim, just highlights these numbers ...

Addressed in a fulsome way russian meddling in the elections. i think there's little reason to believe they will again. the president simply wants to overlook that fact, but administration officials say it will be at least one of the topics but certainly not the topic. syria, arms control at the top of the list. >> what keind of topic will it e if just last week the president doubted russian interference. jim, thanks. the first of three court ordered deadlines for those children separated a the border is tomorrow. the youngest of the children must be reunited with their parents by next tuesday...

Point, saying under 3,000 children in total, that have been separated from their families remain in custody today. among that 3,000 figure, it includes 100 children who are under the age of 5. the wording that the hhs secretary is using certainly is very important. he said under 3,000 children, so that is not a real number yet. the last data point of course we had was that last tuesday, he said there were 2,047 children who had been separated from their parents still in custody. so that begs the question, has the number gone up at all? considering there's two different data points here. on tha...

Her kids. any progress on that? >> she told me today for the first time the social worker facilitated a video conference call with her 2-year-old and 7-year-old so some movement for her. as a reporter who's been covering the story for weeks, we were reporting on 2,047 children at one point so that headline out of that phone call today, under 3,000 but it's a much bigger range of children separated from their parents at the border. >> they have got until july 10th, which is just around the corner, to reunite children with parents 5 and under and july 26th for those 5 and over. i guess over 5. i...

New details at this hour. the number of migrant children who remain in this country separated from their parents. officials in a conference call that just wrapped up a few moments ago said fewer than 3,000 remain in hhs care. most of the children were separated from their parents when they were detained trying to enter the united states without documentation. msnbc mariana artencio has spent a lot of time with these migrant families. you were just on this call. what did we find out? >> it's amazing all the news that gets generated from these calls. i think we have to really mention that number...