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Seen difficult ulgd through the investigation. but the idea >> right. >> that there's been no truth. what is this the 20th set of indictments we have seen from this person and guilty pleas. >> certainly -- none of them on collusion with russia. we also know if you look at. >> that's not true. but it's no trump staffer who has been caught up in doing that. >> right. >> but lying. >> they have. >> lying about conversations like this. when you say -- they're not going after manafort simply for a squeeze, right because they have indictments of other crimes unrelated to the collusion. but it does s...

Like papadopoulos is snuck a bad spot some of the other guys. they don't have anything to give. >> we don't know that. >> the president and none of the men and women around him -- i don't believe they do because i was on the inside and i heard the communications. >> words matter. and when you don't fuel the misperception of known fact with how you feel about things you're free to have feels. >> but we also know at this point we know of know evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and russia. we know of none. >> because it hasn't. >> it had nothing to do with the elections. >> that's o...