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How much was your life disrupted during this time? was there much disruption or in reality because as a minister you had permission to work in an office rather than working from home, in reality was your life much less disrupted than other people? i think you raise a very important point, and this was actually raised byjulia hartley—brewer during the course of the pandemic, that many people who were within the decision—making ambit, and i wouldn't claim to be an actual decision maker in relation to covid rules, were less affected than people, for example, living on the 20th storey of a tow...

Byjulia hartley brewer during the course of the pandemic, that many people who were within the decision—making ambit and i wouldn't claim to be an actual decision maker in relation to covid rules, were less affected than people, for example, living on the 20th storey of a tower block who had a long journey down to get to the park to go out for an hour. i can't begin to say that compared to that, being in somerset with my six children around me and my wife was in anyway as hard a task. now, there are some people that think the prime minister's problems, politically, are not about parties at a...

They decided that they wanted to see their family over christmas rather than their colleagues at a work party. and i think that's really interesting, i think we do learn from that that the wisdom of the british people is a very important part of how we are governed and that you don't need all the time to give people detailed regulations. how much was your life disrupted during this time? was there much disruption or in reality because as a minister you had permission to work in an office rather than working from home, in reality was your life much less disrupted than other people? i think you ...

Of public opinion. i actually think the first lockdown happened before the government introduced any regulations because people decided it was important. i think the last non—lockdown over christmas almost happened because people decided to limit their social engagements, they decided that they wanted to see their family over christmas rather than their colleagues at a work party. and i think that's really interesting, i think we do learn from that that the wisdom of the british people is a very important part of how we are governed and that you don't need all the time to give people detaile...