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♪ hard for my money >> the economy creates good, middle class jobs that pay well and offer security. >> that fight is worth fighting for. >> we have to be able to outbuild and outeducate and outinnovate every other country on earth. >> richard trumka, afl-cio president joins me now from los angeles. mr. trumka, good to have you with us tonight. certainly you have a big convention next week. a lot of hot topics. the numbers are a little staggering. last year only 11.3% of american workers were unionized. that's the lowest percentage in nearly a century. 30 years ago, 20.1% were unionized. and...

Be 20.1% in 1993. now it's 11.3%. a decline in participation in the private sector. >> take a look again, let's go back to wisconsin. when they eliminated -- the republican employees, in other words, they didn't take the money out of their wages and send it directly to the unions. the unions had to get it from the workers. 1/3, as i understand it, of the public employees, simply dropped out of the union, put their dues in their pocket, and kept their jobs. i think unions have done some wonderful things. eight-hour day. get rid of child labor. we don't want things like over in bangladesh. dropp...

Be 20.1% in 1993. now it's 11.3%. a decline in participation in the private sector. >> take a look again, let's go back to wisconsin. when they eliminated -- the republican employees, in other words, they didn't take the money out of their wages and send it directly to the unions. the unions had to get it from the workers. 1/3, as i understand it, of the public employees, simply dropped out of the union, put their dues in their pocket, and kept their jobs. i think unions have done some wonderful things. eight-hour day. get rid of child labor. we don't want things like over in bangladesh. dropp...

In detroit. 32 murders in 15 days. >> detroit is the poorest big city in america. 40% of the people here are on food stamps. the jobless rate is 11.3%. >> it's bad, it's bad. the crime, you can't get ems. let's just be real about it. we can put billions and billions of dollars overseas and rebuild people's economies but not put one quarter into our cities. >> there's five things that people want, a clean city, a safe city, a smart city, education, and also protection, police and fire. >> we found out that it's never been inspected, all the ladders are grounded. so good luck getting up. guys wi...

In detroit. 32 murders in 15 days. >> detroit is the poorest big city in america. 40% of the people here are on food stamps. the jobless rate is 11.3%. >> it's bad, it's bad. the crime, you can't get ems. let's just be real about it. we can put billions and billions of dollars overseas and rebuild people's economies but not put one quarter into our cities. >> there's five things that people want, a clean city, a safe city, a smart city, education, and also protection, police and fire. >> we found out that it's never been inspected, all the ladders are grounded. so good luck getting up. guys wi...