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Asking "at some point black lives matter is going to be confronted with an uncomfortable question. is this all worth it? at what point will they rethink how they're approaching the problem? >> something at this vctivists trying to shut down the paper. i may have mispronounced. stas calfage. >> let's get that on the table. >> say it three times fast. >> i'm not going to. i want to ask you a little bit about, were you worried when you released this piece you would get some serious backlash? >> yes. i mean when i write these arr t articles, i'm knot 100% certain in my views. i wrote it in a way t...

Is this movement effective? we've seen the videos. some the rhetoric during some of the marches have been pretty terrible. calling for the killing of police officers. so when you look at this movement at large, it is a fair question to ask. what was the response on campus? >> on campus, it was basically that i had delegitimized the movement and attacking the movement somehow. but i wasn't. i was basically asking, do you think that maybe a stronger message of peace would be better? >> we know that the editorial staff later apologized for your piece, writing in part we sincerely apologize for th...