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I think it's going to be a strong signal. look, i keep coming back to the fact that when, you know, you look at the odds that are against us. i mean, i think david would like to have these odds versus goliath, i think. this is a herculean task that we're involved in. it's going well. we have -- we've made record numbers of phone calls out of our victory -- our campaign offices. we have volunteers flowing in like we've never seen before, really since iowa. the grassroots effort has been spectacular and the response that a lot of folks don't want this race to be over. there's one thing worse tha...

Nomination fight. would you agree? is wisconsin do or die for you? >> i don't think wisconsin is do or die but i think he is right. i think it's going to be a strong signal. look, i keep coming back to the fact that when, you know, you look at the odds that are against us. i mean, i think david would like to have these odds versus goliath, i think. this is a herculean task that we're involved in. it's going well. we have -- we've made record numbers of phone calls out of our victory -- our campaign offices. we have volunteers flowing in like we've never seen before, really since iowa. the gras...